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Your edits have certainly improved both comments. Population decline doesn’t guarantee human liberty. Factory farms reflect the hierarchies we see in society.
by Affric 3y ago
Your edits have certainly improved both comments.
Population decline doesn’t guarantee human liberty.
Factory farms reflect the hierarchies we see in society. Not the other way around.
I can see unfree (in a non-trivial sense) human labour becoming more valuable in a world with less human labour and no suitable substitutes.
Global population is not quite orthogonal to many of our social problems.
- toomuchtodo 3y agoSurplus labor is power to those in power. Scarce labor empowers the individual. Compressing demographics is good for the individual, but bad for economic and political systems.
- Affric 3y agoThis is true to an extent but we have never really seen an information economy with a global labour scarcity. If we look at "advanced" economies with physical labour scarcities we see infrastructure deficits and inflation in asset prices. Having worked behind a computer and behind hammers, saws, on ladders, et cetera I think that political/economic collapse might not be ideal. With that said perhaps my socialist history teachers couldn't overcome the immense power of British propaganda against revolution.
- toomuchtodo 3y agoIf current state is a form of economic slavery, alternatives may be welcome. Depends on your point of view I suppose, as well as your role and position in the system. Some may welcome decline over current state and the cost it imposes. https://www.news18.com/india/frustrated-over-being-unemployed-man-dies-by-suicide-after-burning-all-his-degrees-8790716.html https://www.news18.com/india/frustrated-over-being-unemploye... https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2023/05/31/asia-pacific/china-youth-unemployment/ https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2023/05/31/asia-pacific/ch... https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/may/26/the-rise-of-bai-lan-why-chinas-frustrated-youth-are-ready-to-let-it-rot https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/may/26/the-rise-of-ba... https://www.vice.com/en/article/wxjqyb/south-korea-69-hour-work-week https://www.vice.com/en/article/wxjqyb/south-korea-69-hour-w... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_work_environment https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_work_environment https://www.ilo.org/global/about-the-ilo/newsroom/news/WCMS_670171/lang--en/index.htm https://www.ilo.org/global/about-the-ilo/newsroom/news/WCMS_... https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39504981 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39504981