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38 3y ago
Thank God. Twitter logged out is a piece of shit, and they are purposefully gimping the API to make nitter awful too. Fuck Twitter.
- haunter 3y ago
  Hate the user more than the tool. I know the audience is there and you want impressions but Twitter was never meant for long form content like this. It’s a blog post tweeted in chunks. Probably it would reach far less people if it was posted on a niche personal blog so I can understand people doing it but I think it’s not a Twitter problem per se.
  - jauntywundrkind 3y ago
    Twitter's long ass posts suck egg. Twitter threads should be readable. They were and they were fine and good. It was great having content broken up. It was great seeing reactions to individual sections. It should not made impossible to see some's Twitter theads. Get in the sea.
    - tbrownaw 3y ago
      > was great having content broken up. Having each paragraph preemptively separated from its context was certainly great for entertainment, but maybe not so much for reasoned discussion.
      - jauntywundrkind 3y ago
        On the contrary, Twitter's threads to me are one of the greatest enhancements to discussion we've ever had. It's quite clear what specifically someone responds to with length-limited tweets. The discussion naturally expands into a tree of refining arguments. Where-as in most text mediums, there's no direct pointers telling us specifically what someone is referring to; it's implicit context we the reader have to infer. If the person even is making a targeted real reply in the first place, isn't just soapboxing. The ability to direct arguments & contestations clearly is far advanced over regular text by the hypermedia form for Twitter. Its wild to me that we haven't rebuilt more discussion systems to generate structure.
  - tverbeure 3y ago
    It's not a blog post tweeted in chunks, it's post-as-you-progress, a conversation that others can follow... or not. I do it all the time, and so did Wenting here. Others will often give suggestions with things to try. Wenting has a blog in which describes completed projects: https://www.wentingzhang.com https://www.wentingzhang.com.
- jaynetics 3y ago
  It's also weird how unappealing and bare it is. It's like they don't want new users. As someone who rarely clicks Twitter links and never logged in, I thought the first post was all there is to this, which certainly wouldn't entice me to sign up...
  - xrisk 3y ago
    You can’t even view the tweet if you have iCloud private relay turned on
  - raverbashing 3y ago
    Nah it seems Elon only wants more crypto peddlers, agitprops and other sockpuppets that will gladly pay for "verified" status
  - sidibe 3y ago
    It's better than showing the top replies like when you're logged in, which are usually a bunch of lobotomized blue checks saying the dumbest things imaginable
replwoacause 3y ago
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- dheera 3y ago
  True, but Instagram did the same thing, you used to be able to browse photos without an account using a web browser, but they changed that. Instagram also ruined a bunch of other things in the past couple years. For example photos no longer get shown to all of even your own voluntary followers, the platform uses some "AI" to decide if they think it's worthy of your friends' attention or whether it should be censored away from them. There's basically no good social media app now.
  - BobaFloutist 3y ago
    Tumblr is a meme, but it's also one of the few places left where you can view a feed of reverse chronological content exclusively from the people you follow, and that's moderately valuable in of itself.

38 3y ago

Thank God. Twitter logged out is a piece of shit, and they are purposefully gimping the API to make nitter awful too. Fuck Twitter.

haunter 3y ago
Hate the user more than the tool. I know the audience is there and you want impressions but Twitter was never meant for long form content like this. It’s a blog post tweeted in chunks. Probably it would reach far less people if it was posted on a niche personal blog so I can understand people doing it but I think it’s not a Twitter problem per se.
- jauntywundrkind 3y ago
  Twitter's long ass posts suck egg. Twitter threads should be readable. They were and they were fine and good. It was great having content broken up. It was great seeing reactions to individual sections. It should not made impossible to see some's Twitter theads. Get in the sea.
  - tbrownaw 3y ago
    > was great having content broken up. Having each paragraph preemptively separated from its context was certainly great for entertainment, but maybe not so much for reasoned discussion.
    - jauntywundrkind 3y ago
      On the contrary, Twitter's threads to me are one of the greatest enhancements to discussion we've ever had. It's quite clear what specifically someone responds to with length-limited tweets. The discussion naturally expands into a tree of refining arguments. Where-as in most text mediums, there's no direct pointers telling us specifically what someone is referring to; it's implicit context we the reader have to infer. If the person even is making a targeted real reply in the first place, isn't just soapboxing. The ability to direct arguments & contestations clearly is far advanced over regular text by the hypermedia form for Twitter. Its wild to me that we haven't rebuilt more discussion systems to generate structure.
- tverbeure 3y ago
  It's not a blog post tweeted in chunks, it's post-as-you-progress, a conversation that others can follow... or not. I do it all the time, and so did Wenting here. Others will often give suggestions with things to try. Wenting has a blog in which describes completed projects: https://www.wentingzhang.com https://www.wentingzhang.com.
jaynetics 3y ago
It's also weird how unappealing and bare it is. It's like they don't want new users. As someone who rarely clicks Twitter links and never logged in, I thought the first post was all there is to this, which certainly wouldn't entice me to sign up...
- xrisk 3y ago
  You can’t even view the tweet if you have iCloud private relay turned on
- raverbashing 3y ago
  Nah it seems Elon only wants more crypto peddlers, agitprops and other sockpuppets that will gladly pay for "verified" status
- sidibe 3y ago
  It's better than showing the top replies like when you're logged in, which are usually a bunch of lobotomized blue checks saying the dumbest things imaginable

replwoacause 3y ago

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dheera 3y ago
True, but Instagram did the same thing, you used to be able to browse photos without an account using a web browser, but they changed that. Instagram also ruined a bunch of other things in the past couple years. For example photos no longer get shown to all of even your own voluntary followers, the platform uses some "AI" to decide if they think it's worthy of your friends' attention or whether it should be censored away from them. There's basically no good social media app now.
- BobaFloutist 3y ago
  Tumblr is a meme, but it's also one of the few places left where you can view a feed of reverse chronological content exclusively from the people you follow, and that's moderately valuable in of itself.