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No, but studies have found that 250k+ deaths per year in the US are due to medical errors. [1] [1] https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/news/media/releases/study_su

No, but studies have found that 250k+ deaths per year in the US are due to medical errors. [1] [1] https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/news/media/releases/study_suggests_medical_errors_now_third_leading_cause_of_death_in_the_us https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/news/media/releases/study_su...

__loam 3y ago
Doctors also go to school to be doctors for 12 extra years. It turns out that medicine is hard. Not really a good reason to turn to an LLM that will just confidently make things up.
- paulddraper 3y ago
  Medicine being hard is in fact an excellent reason to use AI tools.
- larsiusprime 3y ago
  I’m aware, I come from a medical family. You haven’t answered the question.
esoleyman 3y ago
Martin Makary’s study and the previous IOM one are based on faulty statistics used. The number is extrapolated from a small population to a larger one. I haven’t paid it any attention because of this problem. GIGO. https://www.sciencealert.com/no-500-people-don-t-die-in-the-us-every-two-days-due-to-medical-error https://www.sciencealert.com/no-500-people-don-t-die-in-the-...
epcoa 3y ago
Yes perhaps read your own link: “ The researchers caution that most of medical errors aren’t due to inherently bad doctors, and that reporting these errors shouldn’t be addressed by punishment or legal action. Rather, they say, most errors represent systemic problems, including poorly coordinated care, fragmented insurance networks, the absence or underuse of safety nets, and other protocols, in addition to unwarranted variation in physician practice patterns that lack accountability.” An LLM is not going to address any of that. You are misinformed implying a significant majority of medical system errors are due to misdiagnosis.
- paulddraper 3y ago
  The availability, computerized nature, and economics of LLMs can certainly impact all of those factors.
  - epcoa 3y ago
    Replace LLMs with smart phones or desktop calculators it doesn’t really change that statement except the tense and though not false it isn’t a particularly profound observation. I am skeptical of how much lifting “impact” is doing here.

__loam 3y ago

Doctors also go to school to be doctors for 12 extra years. It turns out that medicine is hard. Not really a good reason to turn to an LLM that will just confidently make things up.

paulddraper 3y ago
Medicine being hard is in fact an excellent reason to use AI tools.
larsiusprime 3y ago
I’m aware, I come from a medical family. You haven’t answered the question.

esoleyman 3y ago

Martin Makary’s study and the previous IOM one are based on faulty statistics used. The number is extrapolated from a small population to a larger one. I haven’t paid it any attention because of this problem. GIGO. https://www.sciencealert.com/no-500-people-don-t-die-in-the-us-every-two-days-due-to-medical-error https://www.sciencealert.com/no-500-people-don-t-die-in-the-...

epcoa 3y ago

Yes perhaps read your own link: “ The researchers caution that most of medical errors aren’t due to inherently bad doctors, and that reporting these errors shouldn’t be addressed by punishment or legal action. Rather, they say, most errors represent systemic problems, including poorly coordinated care, fragmented insurance networks, the absence or underuse of safety nets, and other protocols, in addition to unwarranted variation in physician practice patterns that lack accountability.” An LLM is not going to address any of that. You are misinformed implying a significant majority of medical system errors are due to misdiagnosis.

paulddraper 3y ago
The availability, computerized nature, and economics of LLMs can certainly impact all of those factors.
- epcoa 3y ago
  Replace LLMs with smart phones or desktop calculators it doesn’t really change that statement except the tense and though not false it isn’t a particularly profound observation. I am skeptical of how much lifting “impact” is doing here.