Those aren’t in dispute in the UN charter we are talking about, nor in the broader case at the ICJ asking about the legal consequences of the occupation, nor at

Those aren’t in dispute in the UN charter we are talking about, nor in the broader case at the ICJ asking about the legal consequences of the occupation, nor at most other current decolonization efforts at the UN for the prospect of a Palestinian state. The UN isn’t demanding a free Palestine from the river to the sea. The ceasefire resolution from 2009 [1; paragraph 8] even states: “the vision of a region where two democratic States, Israel and Palestine, live side by side in peace with secure and recognized border” The right of self determination of Israelis, living within the internationally recognized borders of the independent state of Israel, is never questioned at the UN level. When I wrote the post which you originally replied to, I was working under the suspicion that my parent wasn’t arguing in good faith (a suspicion which was reinforced downthread) and I was trying really hard to not steer this conversation into this direction, only focusing on how the UN deals with the right of self-determination within the context of decolonization. I can see that I failed. 1: https://undocs.org/en/S/RES/1860(2009) https://undocs.org/en/S/RES/1860(2009)