> memory, time complexity, nulls, or code style None of these are specific to text vs visual. Except maybe "code style" and that has a direct analogue in visua

> memory, time complexity, nulls, or code style None of these are specific to text vs visual. Except maybe "code style" and that has a direct analogue in visual programming (and arguably one that's harder to manage). > If needed, I can just use a compiler. Unless I'm misunderstanding you, this is another orthogonal concern. > And many tasks that are simple with visual programming are incredibly complex with textual programming. I never said otherwise. > There is a reason people use it, and part of it about embracing the paradigm, rather than trying to emulate what you already know in it. There most certainly are very good reasons to use visual programming. But that doesn't make the pain points disappear. I'm not sure how to put this any clearer but what I'm trying to say "They both suck. I think we can do better..."