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Who still believes this crap? Clearly it doesn’t actually work even in Portugal, drug use has been going up a lot. Turns out executing drug dealers actually wo

Who still believes this crap? Clearly it doesn’t actually work even in Portugal, drug use has been going up a lot. Turns out executing drug dealers actually works, who knew people didn’t want to die trafficking fentanyl.

johnea 3y ago
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- overstay8930 3y ago
  “Everyone else is stupid but me” is not an actual argument, dude. I’m talking about the uptick in drug abuse in Portugal while the article is just completely ignoring it. By the way, the proposal excludes increase police enforcement. So yea, it is the Wild West even if it says it’s not. Like all “drug reform” plans, there’s no actual plan for the people who don’t want to stop using drugs.
  - amanaplanacanal 3y ago
    Legalization and regulation, and a lot more money for mental health care is the plan. It's hard getting the voters to buy into that though.
    - overstay8930 3y ago
      They’re not buying into it because it’s not an actual plan. Mental health care is optional, and it’s already free in America for the poor with Medicaid. Couple that in with police reforms which discourage use of force (not saying this is good or bad, just info), and you’ve got thousands of court ordered therapy appointments that never actually take place. Your plan is entirely just “legalize drugs”, and people are opposed to legalizing dangerous drugs, believe it or not.
neither_color 3y ago
I just wish westerners who visit Asian cities like Singapore would stop gushing over the cleanliness and orderliness there while bashing the US/west if they're not willing to adopt Singaporean drug laws. You can't have it both ways. "Freedom" means accepting the consequences of people exercising it. Some people experiment and tap into massive creative potential(even Steve Jobs went through a phase), others fall into addictive traps.
- overstay8930 3y ago
  I said nothing of what you’re saying, you don’t have to be a dictatorship to enforce the laws we have. Crime has dropped every single year for the last 30 years until 2017. It’s like how progressives said the war on drugs failed but only as long as you ignore how well it did at reducing crime and drug use.
  - silverquiet 3y ago
    What happened in 2017 to start increasing crime?

johnea 3y ago

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overstay8930 3y ago
“Everyone else is stupid but me” is not an actual argument, dude. I’m talking about the uptick in drug abuse in Portugal while the article is just completely ignoring it. By the way, the proposal excludes increase police enforcement. So yea, it is the Wild West even if it says it’s not. Like all “drug reform” plans, there’s no actual plan for the people who don’t want to stop using drugs.
- amanaplanacanal 3y ago
  Legalization and regulation, and a lot more money for mental health care is the plan. It's hard getting the voters to buy into that though.
  - overstay8930 3y ago
    They’re not buying into it because it’s not an actual plan. Mental health care is optional, and it’s already free in America for the poor with Medicaid. Couple that in with police reforms which discourage use of force (not saying this is good or bad, just info), and you’ve got thousands of court ordered therapy appointments that never actually take place. Your plan is entirely just “legalize drugs”, and people are opposed to legalizing dangerous drugs, believe it or not.

neither_color 3y ago

I just wish westerners who visit Asian cities like Singapore would stop gushing over the cleanliness and orderliness there while bashing the US/west if they're not willing to adopt Singaporean drug laws. You can't have it both ways. "Freedom" means accepting the consequences of people exercising it. Some people experiment and tap into massive creative potential(even Steve Jobs went through a phase), others fall into addictive traps.

overstay8930 3y ago
I said nothing of what you’re saying, you don’t have to be a dictatorship to enforce the laws we have. Crime has dropped every single year for the last 30 years until 2017. It’s like how progressives said the war on drugs failed but only as long as you ignore how well it did at reducing crime and drug use.
- silverquiet 3y ago
  What happened in 2017 to start increasing crime?