I'm not dismissing the latter due to the former at all, or saying they're the same — I point out in my original comment not all environmentalists do this. My go

I'm not dismissing the latter due to the former at all, or saying they're the same — I point out in my original comment not all environmentalists do this. My goals actually align very much with most environmentalist so I'm not trying to say that because some people use weird rhetoric or justifications that we should just ignore the entire movement and the issues at stake. I'm just talking about a particular rhetorical move that I see occasionally that I find a bit annoying. It isn't very common here on hacker news, but in the circles I tend to run in, which are very leftist, you see it a lot more often.