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I can think of no better example of than the US Postal Service. They’re literally is zero reason in 2024 why are we cutting down trees using diesel fuel to shi

I can think of no better example of than the US Postal Service. They’re literally is zero reason in 2024 why are we cutting down trees using diesel fuel to ship paper to a mill using coal to make it into paper using more diesel fuel to ship it to my home to be trashed picked up by a dump truck, using more diesel fuel to be thrown in a giant pile on what it would’ve been otherwise pristine piece of land.

johnchristopher 3y ago
I don't think the US Postal Service is responsible for the quantity of paper people are shipping to your doorstep, neither for the disposal of that pile of paper in a giant pile etc.
- dilyevsky 3y ago
  Usps is at least partially kept afloat by marketing postage aka spam. It’s a quarter of their revenue and probably like 90%+ of my inmail… Though it’s not like usps was created to prevent lots of trees from getting cut so I’m not sure what tp is on about
Angostura 3y ago
To be clear, you believe that everyone in the US is sufficuently digitally savvy and well equipped with digital technology that paper is no-longer needed? Have you tried volunteering with your local town's digital champion/digital mentoring programme, if they exist? Yoiu may find it it interesting
dambi0 3y ago
What proportion of your trash is made up of mail?
- exabrial 3y ago
  I received 6 letters in the last 6 months I want to keep. Three of them were cards from nieces/nephews. 3 of them were bills, but could have been sent via email. This is generously maybe 120 grams. Compare that to the _enormous_ amount of unsolicited bulk trash that I have to clean out regularly. I would say the yearly minimum is 5kg with the upper bound probably around 25kg. I cannot fathom the huge diesel cost to deliver this crap straight to the landfill.
  - dambi0 3y ago
    That answers what proportion of your mail was trash.
fragmede 3y ago
The existence of Amazon's shipping department, UPS, FedEx, DHL, among others, says that people still want to ship physical items around, despite is living in a digital age.

johnchristopher 3y ago

I don't think the US Postal Service is responsible for the quantity of paper people are shipping to your doorstep, neither for the disposal of that pile of paper in a giant pile etc.

dilyevsky 3y ago
Usps is at least partially kept afloat by marketing postage aka spam. It’s a quarter of their revenue and probably like 90%+ of my inmail… Though it’s not like usps was created to prevent lots of trees from getting cut so I’m not sure what tp is on about

Angostura 3y ago

To be clear, you believe that everyone in the US is sufficuently digitally savvy and well equipped with digital technology that paper is no-longer needed? Have you tried volunteering with your local town's digital champion/digital mentoring programme, if they exist? Yoiu may find it it interesting

dambi0 3y ago

What proportion of your trash is made up of mail?

exabrial 3y ago
I received 6 letters in the last 6 months I want to keep. Three of them were cards from nieces/nephews. 3 of them were bills, but could have been sent via email. This is generously maybe 120 grams. Compare that to the _enormous_ amount of unsolicited bulk trash that I have to clean out regularly. I would say the yearly minimum is 5kg with the upper bound probably around 25kg. I cannot fathom the huge diesel cost to deliver this crap straight to the landfill.
- dambi0 3y ago
  That answers what proportion of your mail was trash.

fragmede 3y ago

The existence of Amazon's shipping department, UPS, FedEx, DHL, among others, says that people still want to ship physical items around, despite is living in a digital age.