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Single use plastic bags were banned here. Two things happened as a result - the plastic thickness was increased so they can call them reusable instead of singl

Single use plastic bags were banned here. Two things happened as a result - the plastic thickness was increased so they can call them reusable instead of single use, and stores started charging for them. Instead of reducing plastic waste it had the opposite effect.

switch007 3y ago
> it had the opposite effect. Are you saying that the annual total tonnage of plastic bags increased?
- beej71 3y ago
  Not the gp, but I think they're referring to this: https://www.latimes.com/environment/story/2024-02-12/californias-war-on-plastic-bag-use-seems-to-have-backfired https://www.latimes.com/environment/story/2024-02-12/califor...
  - switch007 3y ago
    Fascinating. Thanks
CubsFan1060 3y ago
I think something like this is really on people. It isn't really hard to use your same bag hundreds of times. It also isn't hard to just not use a bag (I regularly just wheel items out to the car, put them in a box I have there, then take the box inside). If individuals can't be bothered with simple things like this, is there really any hope that any law will help?
- hn72774 3y ago
  > If individuals can't be bothered with simple things like this, is there really any hope that any law will help? I personally think that the law is a waste of taxpayer resources. In the end, stores are still offering plastic bags.
monkey_monkey 3y ago
Of course it didn't have the opposite effect. It's now very much the norm (where I am) for people to bring these bags to the supermarket / grocery to pack their goods. And to back up my claim: https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2023/jul/31/government-urged-to-repeat-success-of-plastic-bag-charge https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2023/jul/31/governme... "Supermarket plastic bag charge has led to 98% drop in use in England, data shows"

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Single use plastic bags were banned here. Two things happened as a result - the plastic thickness was increased so they can call them reusable instead of singl

by hn72774 3y ago

switch007 3y ago
> it had the opposite effect. Are you saying that the annual total tonnage of plastic bags increased?
- beej71 3y ago
  Not the gp, but I think they're referring to this: https://www.latimes.com/environment/story/2024-02-12/californias-war-on-plastic-bag-use-seems-to-have-backfired https://www.latimes.com/environment/story/2024-02-12/califor...
  - switch007 3y ago
    Fascinating. Thanks
CubsFan1060 3y ago
I think something like this is really on people. It isn't really hard to use your same bag hundreds of times. It also isn't hard to just not use a bag (I regularly just wheel items out to the car, put them in a box I have there, then take the box inside). If individuals can't be bothered with simple things like this, is there really any hope that any law will help?
- hn72774 3y ago
  > If individuals can't be bothered with simple things like this, is there really any hope that any law will help? I personally think that the law is a waste of taxpayer resources. In the end, stores are still offering plastic bags.
monkey_monkey 3y ago
Of course it didn't have the opposite effect. It's now very much the norm (where I am) for people to bring these bags to the supermarket / grocery to pack their goods. And to back up my claim: https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2023/jul/31/government-urged-to-repeat-success-of-plastic-bag-charge https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2023/jul/31/governme... "Supermarket plastic bag charge has led to 98% drop in use in England, data shows"