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When we have built entire civilizations that require orders of magnitude more burning of gasoline to get through a day, plastics are the least of our worries, I
by epistasis 3y ago
When we have built entire civilizations that require orders of magnitude more burning of gasoline to get through a day, plastics are the least of our worries, IMHO.
If my fellow Americans were forced to lift and pour the 20 gallons of gasoline when they refill their tanks, they might start to realize the true source of the vast majority of their environmental damage.
(And as far as waste, tire microplastics are a far bigger concern than any plastic packaging waste.)
- mouse_ 3y agoThen ban oil and cars, too. I'm deadly serious.
- baggy_trough 3y ago"Deadly" is the operative word, as that would cause incalculable suffering and damage.
- epistasis 3y agoCars do cause absolutely untold amounts of death and suffering. Something like 60-80 millions deaths and 2 billion injuries have been caused by cars. It's one of the major causes of early death. Most of our fire departments' time in the US is spent dealing with the carnage and bodily mutilation caused by cars, and only a tiny fraction spent on actual fires.
- baggy_trough 3y agoThat may well be true, and yet, getting rid of oil and cars would be much worse by many orders of magnitude.
- epistasis 3y agoYou think getting rid of oil and gasoline cars would kill 6-8 billion people and injure all the rest?
- baggy_trough 3y agoGetting rid of oil and cars would be much more likely to lead to civilizational collapse than climate change in my opinion.
- epistasis 3y agoFriend, I am right there with you. Its a long political battle ahead of us...
- _dark_matter_ 3y agoHah just imagining having to help fill the jet fuel before ascending the stairs to the plane. Same idea as slaughtering your own animals. Problem is that there is still a lot of other invisible uses from companies. Can't force Shell execs to bring paper towels to clean up an oil spill (well, maybe we can, but you get the point).