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Don't be ridiculous. Technology is confusing. A person should spend decades of their life studying law and practicing it and then have their career ended becau

by CPLX 3y ago

Don't be ridiculous. Technology is confusing. A person should spend decades of their life studying law and practicing it and then have their career ended because they didn't realize that this new tool everyone said was so amazing was fundamentally and conceptually different from every search engine he'd seen before and (unlike what he otherwise would have used, Westlaw) comes up with random made up but very plausible sounding precedents when you ask it for legal research? Embarrassed, called out, fined? Of course. But that's not a serious argument. Unless you think someone should be legally prohibited from ever being paid as a programmer for the rest of their life for blowing up a server or failing to maintain a backup system or something This is a mistake, and a pretty easy to understand one. It's not stealing client's money or tampering with a witness or something.

lupire 3y ago
1. He used a tool that displayed a warning label saying that it's not trustworthy. 2. He didn't check the results against official, established database. 3. He got caught, lied about it, and then did it all again. 4. The legal bar for good reason, has a bigger ethical standard than the average business. These are officers of the Court. This is equivalent to a doctor prescribing a patient to take medication from a 3P seller FURODNZ on Amazon.com
- Isamu 3y ago
  He had three others doing the research preparing the brief, that means especially the citations that were fake. He did not realize they didn’t do the due diligence to check that the citations were correct, let alone that they were not completely invented. But he was the person on the hook with the judge. This amounts to filing false statements and that is well known issue that we don’t have to invent new penalties for.
  - lupire 3y ago
    Disbarment isn't a new penalty. As the licensed member of the bar, his one job is to be responsible for the output of his team. If he's not doing that, then he doesn't need to be a lawyer. His staff can file their BS directly to the court.
    - threatofrain 3y ago
      Similarly the CPA shouldn't be able to pass off blame to their team.
BobbyTables2 3y ago
You have no problem with $$$$ experienced lawyer billing clients for $$$$ services carried out by $$ inexperienced flunkies who cheat by using a $ “AI” to do their job?
- CPLX 3y ago
  Of course I have a problem with it. He should be shamed and penalized and made an example of.

by CPLX 3y ago

lupire 3y ago

1. He used a tool that displayed a warning label saying that it's not trustworthy. 2. He didn't check the results against official, established database. 3. He got caught, lied about it, and then did it all again. 4. The legal bar for good reason, has a bigger ethical standard than the average business. These are officers of the Court. This is equivalent to a doctor prescribing a patient to take medication from a 3P seller FURODNZ on Amazon.com

Isamu 3y ago
He had three others doing the research preparing the brief, that means especially the citations that were fake. He did not realize they didn’t do the due diligence to check that the citations were correct, let alone that they were not completely invented. But he was the person on the hook with the judge. This amounts to filing false statements and that is well known issue that we don’t have to invent new penalties for.
- lupire 3y ago
  Disbarment isn't a new penalty. As the licensed member of the bar, his one job is to be responsible for the output of his team. If he's not doing that, then he doesn't need to be a lawyer. His staff can file their BS directly to the court.
  - threatofrain 3y ago
    Similarly the CPA shouldn't be able to pass off blame to their team.

BobbyTables2 3y ago

You have no problem with $$$$ experienced lawyer billing clients for $$$$ services carried out by $$ inexperienced flunkies who cheat by using a $ “AI” to do their job?

CPLX 3y ago
Of course I have a problem with it. He should be shamed and penalized and made an example of.