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It's not that weird. Doctors and the state have perverse incentives. We also discourage suicide for good reasons.

cogman10 3y ago
States with the death penalty are finding it hard to find doctors and suppliers to carry out the punishment. I don't, frankly, think there's a lot of perverse incentive. For the medical field, the incentive is for longevity. Nursing homes make money on occupancy, they aren't going to want to kill off their primary source of income. The state might care, but they have an uphill battle if they tried pulling off soylent green.
- wakawaka28 3y ago
  Killing people to take their organs would be one perverse incentive. Reducing costs to the state would be another. Canada has been taking the lead with euthanasia. They propose it as a solution for such things as depression and poverty, or anything else that would make life unbearable for you (regardless of whether it's reasonable). See: https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/another-case-of-a-sick-canadian-offered-death-instead-of-treatment-this-time-a-veteran https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/another-case-of-a-sick-... https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/may/11/canada-cases-right-to-die-laws https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/may/11/canada-cases-r... https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/christine-gauthier-paralympian-euthanasia-canada-b2238319.html https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/christine-... https://nypost.com/2023/02/24/canada-considers-expanding-euthanasia-program-to-terminally-ill-minors/ https://nypost.com/2023/02/24/canada-considers-expanding-eut... On the other hand, the medical establishment currently has incentives to keep people alive. That can certainly lead to perverse incentives too.
  - c4ptnj4ck 3y ago
    your premise that killing people to take their organs is a perverse incentive doesn't make sense to me.. The person who could have a perverse incentive would be the person receiving organs, when there are far easier, cheaper, and effective ways for a physician to increase profit. Additionally, people who are sick enough to qualify are the least likely candidates for organ donation/transplantation. Also did you even read the articles posted? It no where states or alludes to the idea that the state is providing euthanasia to solve either depression or poverty. I really don't get how you came to that conclusion. All it says is that people with severe medical disabilities who are too impoverished to get adequate care the state isn't providing would rather die. It's free to change medical regulation allowing physician assisted suicide. On the other hand, we don't even know how to solve poverty, even if the political willpower and money suddenly appeared.

States with the death penalty are finding it hard to find doctors and suppliers to carry out the punishment. I don't, frankly, think there's a lot of perverse incentive. For the medical field, the incentive is for longevity. Nursing homes make money on occupancy, they aren't going to want to kill off their primary source of income. The state might care, but they have an uphill battle if they tried pulling off soylent green.

wakawaka28 3y ago
Killing people to take their organs would be one perverse incentive. Reducing costs to the state would be another. Canada has been taking the lead with euthanasia. They propose it as a solution for such things as depression and poverty, or anything else that would make life unbearable for you (regardless of whether it's reasonable). See: https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/another-case-of-a-sick-canadian-offered-death-instead-of-treatment-this-time-a-veteran https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/another-case-of-a-sick-... https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/may/11/canada-cases-right-to-die-laws https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/may/11/canada-cases-r... https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/christine-gauthier-paralympian-euthanasia-canada-b2238319.html https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/christine-... https://nypost.com/2023/02/24/canada-considers-expanding-euthanasia-program-to-terminally-ill-minors/ https://nypost.com/2023/02/24/canada-considers-expanding-eut... On the other hand, the medical establishment currently has incentives to keep people alive. That can certainly lead to perverse incentives too.
- c4ptnj4ck 3y ago
  your premise that killing people to take their organs is a perverse incentive doesn't make sense to me.. The person who could have a perverse incentive would be the person receiving organs, when there are far easier, cheaper, and effective ways for a physician to increase profit. Additionally, people who are sick enough to qualify are the least likely candidates for organ donation/transplantation. Also did you even read the articles posted? It no where states or alludes to the idea that the state is providing euthanasia to solve either depression or poverty. I really don't get how you came to that conclusion. All it says is that people with severe medical disabilities who are too impoverished to get adequate care the state isn't providing would rather die. It's free to change medical regulation allowing physician assisted suicide. On the other hand, we don't even know how to solve poverty, even if the political willpower and money suddenly appeared.