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Do jewish people have right of self determination? In the sense that all peoples have the right of self-determination - of course, unquestionably. As to wheth

Do jewish people have right of self determination? In the sense that all peoples have the right of self-determination - of course, unquestionably. As to whether that applies to the self-determination in the sense of a viable community within the boundaries historic Palestine? You know the answer already, of course. As per the Balfour declaration, as long as it is: clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine

tguvot 3y ago
i dont think that balfour declaration has any relevance in modern "international law". but given that you opened this topic, under international law, un charter, etc, do jewish people have right of self determination in judea and samaria ?
- khokhol 3y ago
  Do jewish people have right of self determination in judea and samaria? The international community does not recognize "Judea and Samaria" as a jurisdiction. So the question is moot. Further, what you're getting at is a question of sovereignty -- which has nothing to do with religious belief or cultural identity, per se. Which makes the question doubly moot.
  - tguvot 3y ago
    >The international community does not recognize "Judea and Samaria" as a jurisdiction. So the question is moot. Judea and Samaria are historical names and predate establishment of state of Israel and it administrative division. This naming is also used by UN and going back for example to 1947 UN Partition plan: "the boundary of the hill country of Samaria and Judea starts on the Jordan River...". and i am not talking about sovereignty. i am talking about self determination per us charter. can jews do it there ? can samaritans do it there ? can palestinians do it there ?
    - khokhol 3y ago
      Judea and Samaria are historical names Right, but that doesn't make them internationally recognized. If you can't use valid jurisdiction names, there's nothing to talk about here.

tguvot 3y ago

i dont think that balfour declaration has any relevance in modern "international law". but given that you opened this topic, under international law, un charter, etc, do jewish people have right of self determination in judea and samaria ?

khokhol 3y ago
Do jewish people have right of self determination in judea and samaria? The international community does not recognize "Judea and Samaria" as a jurisdiction. So the question is moot. Further, what you're getting at is a question of sovereignty -- which has nothing to do with religious belief or cultural identity, per se. Which makes the question doubly moot.
- tguvot 3y ago
  >The international community does not recognize "Judea and Samaria" as a jurisdiction. So the question is moot. Judea and Samaria are historical names and predate establishment of state of Israel and it administrative division. This naming is also used by UN and going back for example to 1947 UN Partition plan: "the boundary of the hill country of Samaria and Judea starts on the Jordan River...". and i am not talking about sovereignty. i am talking about self determination per us charter. can jews do it there ? can samaritans do it there ? can palestinians do it there ?
  - khokhol 3y ago
    Judea and Samaria are historical names Right, but that doesn't make them internationally recognized. If you can't use valid jurisdiction names, there's nothing to talk about here.