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This is a slightly strange article to read if you happen to be Eliezer Yudkowsky. Just saying.

xmonkee 3y ago
woah, haha
AdrianEGraphene 3y ago
cool personal site. nice & to the point. Yea, I thought you would have gotten used to seeing elements of yourself on the web, but I guess there's levels to notoriety.
p1esk 3y ago
Why? I see your book was mentioned in the article, but I don't see what's strange about it.
- HaZeust 3y ago
  It's kind of weird seeing your work pop up in a writing out of nowhere. It's happened for my research articles before and I've had to do a double-take before saying to myself, "huh... That was nice of them."
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aChattuio 3y ago
You are Eliezer? You wrote the HP fan fiction? Cool, your ff was the first.one I ever read and loved the take on it :)
- pcthrowaway 3y ago
  We can also thank him for unleashing Roko's Basilisk
  - HaZeust 3y ago
    Well I mean Roko proposed it in the infamous post [1, archived], but Eliezer gave it the time of day in his reply that made it famous. In fact, when I read Roko's thread for the first time, I always thought it was incredibly foolish that a leading AI researcher and thought leader made it unequivocally clear that a public AI thought experiment post was a dangerous precedent-setting thought because of its potential to be part of said AI's future knowledgebase and the motives it would build therefrom. Because now, THAT worry is included in that knowledgebase; and its endorsed from a reputable person in the field - and became more indexable as a result. A better move, in my opinion, would have been a silent deletion and a stern talk in PMs. Now Roko's Basilisk is far-reaching, and undeniably and empirically a scary thought to humans; and the evidence of both those things are irreversible. C'est la vie. 1 - https://basilisk.neocities.org/ https://basilisk.neocities.org/
    - FeepingCreature 3y ago
      As we can see with the Sam Altman debacle, a silent deletion would probably only have fanned the flames more. When the Basilisk came out, everybody said it was a cognitohazard and I should avoid seeking out information about it. This made me incredibly motivated to find out everything about it. Silence doesn't work.
      - HaZeust 3y ago
        Silence works when already almost no one knows about it. It's why I can delete a HackerNews comment that I regret posting 10 minutes after the fact, and expect to face no pragmatic repercussions - the impression was already low. Sam Altman was already bound to be a PR nightmare as an oust of control for the CEO of the biggest-growing company in history, a covert operation to keep it from the collective conscious would not have worked. There's levels to this approach. Roko's Basilisk, a post on a public forum that only a few dozen people saw before Eliezer commented on it, could've gotten away with it. It's a shame it didn't try.
firtoz 3y ago
Can you please let me know your exact thoughts and feelings as verbosely as possible? I'm training a very specific AI model and need this data - just kidding.
edanm 3y ago
It was weird for me as a kind-of part of the rationalist movement, I can imagine it's weirder for you. Then again, your views have effectively become semi-mainstream, or at least have shifted the Overton window so far that they're solidly within it. So it's not that unusual.

woah, haha

cool personal site. nice & to the point. Yea, I thought you would have gotten used to seeing elements of yourself on the web, but I guess there's levels to notoriety.

p1esk 3y ago

Why? I see your book was mentioned in the article, but I don't see what's strange about it.

HaZeust 3y ago
It's kind of weird seeing your work pop up in a writing out of nowhere. It's happened for my research articles before and I've had to do a double-take before saying to myself, "huh... That was nice of them."

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aChattuio 3y ago

You are Eliezer? You wrote the HP fan fiction? Cool, your ff was the first.one I ever read and loved the take on it :)

pcthrowaway 3y ago
We can also thank him for unleashing Roko's Basilisk
- HaZeust 3y ago
  Well I mean Roko proposed it in the infamous post [1, archived], but Eliezer gave it the time of day in his reply that made it famous. In fact, when I read Roko's thread for the first time, I always thought it was incredibly foolish that a leading AI researcher and thought leader made it unequivocally clear that a public AI thought experiment post was a dangerous precedent-setting thought because of its potential to be part of said AI's future knowledgebase and the motives it would build therefrom. Because now, THAT worry is included in that knowledgebase; and its endorsed from a reputable person in the field - and became more indexable as a result. A better move, in my opinion, would have been a silent deletion and a stern talk in PMs. Now Roko's Basilisk is far-reaching, and undeniably and empirically a scary thought to humans; and the evidence of both those things are irreversible. C'est la vie. 1 - https://basilisk.neocities.org/ https://basilisk.neocities.org/
  - FeepingCreature 3y ago
    As we can see with the Sam Altman debacle, a silent deletion would probably only have fanned the flames more. When the Basilisk came out, everybody said it was a cognitohazard and I should avoid seeking out information about it. This made me incredibly motivated to find out everything about it. Silence doesn't work.
    - HaZeust 3y ago
      Silence works when already almost no one knows about it. It's why I can delete a HackerNews comment that I regret posting 10 minutes after the fact, and expect to face no pragmatic repercussions - the impression was already low. Sam Altman was already bound to be a PR nightmare as an oust of control for the CEO of the biggest-growing company in history, a covert operation to keep it from the collective conscious would not have worked. There's levels to this approach. Roko's Basilisk, a post on a public forum that only a few dozen people saw before Eliezer commented on it, could've gotten away with it. It's a shame it didn't try.

firtoz 3y ago

Can you please let me know your exact thoughts and feelings as verbosely as possible? I'm training a very specific AI model and need this data - just kidding.

edanm 3y ago

It was weird for me as a kind-of part of the rationalist movement, I can imagine it's weirder for you. Then again, your views have effectively become semi-mainstream, or at least have shifted the Overton window so far that they're solidly within it. So it's not that unusual.