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> training up an army of people that poorly review websites and collateral by hand and make some determinations with a very low precision and recall, and a ver

> training up an army of people that poorly review websites and collateral by hand and make some determinations with a very low precision and recall, and a very high expense profile including training, benefits, HR, etc, with high attrition. Building these operations is complex, time consuming, and often fails to produce meaningfully useful results for years. followed by > GPT4 level ability and a modest investment in scraping oh yeah, these speech patterns are those of someone who isn't unnecessarily hyped while trying to downplay other approaches. no bias here at all folks...

fnordpiglet 3y ago
I’ve done the other approaches for decades, specifically using NLP and classifiers to try to do these and things, my friend. It’s been a really grueling effort with little success. But as an example in the real world visible to most people, the product catalog at eBay is the end product of my work in applying NLP and classifiers at building product catalogs, ontologies, and taxonomies automatically from scrapes of e-commerce sites etc. GPT4 would have turned my job into a simple exercise in structuring the classifications. It would have completely revolutionized what I had to do. It’s readily apparent from the pessimistic HN threads they come from people who don’t actually do these things for a living and haven’t had much real world experience. These speech patterns as you call them are the way people who “do things” differentiate from those who can’t or haven’t done things. It’s called “experience.”
- JohnPrine 3y ago
  Thanks for the comments, that was really enlightening. Not sure why people on a tech forum seem so eager to dismiss an emerging technology rather than using their imaginations a little
  - PH95VuimJjqBqy 3y ago
    no one is doing that, the issue is the overhyping. When claude shannon first came out with his information theory everyone started trying to apply it to everything, discuss everything in terms of his theories. He himself thought it was ridiculous and basically told everyone to stop it. This is no different.

fnordpiglet 3y ago

I’ve done the other approaches for decades, specifically using NLP and classifiers to try to do these and things, my friend. It’s been a really grueling effort with little success. But as an example in the real world visible to most people, the product catalog at eBay is the end product of my work in applying NLP and classifiers at building product catalogs, ontologies, and taxonomies automatically from scrapes of e-commerce sites etc. GPT4 would have turned my job into a simple exercise in structuring the classifications. It would have completely revolutionized what I had to do. It’s readily apparent from the pessimistic HN threads they come from people who don’t actually do these things for a living and haven’t had much real world experience. These speech patterns as you call them are the way people who “do things” differentiate from those who can’t or haven’t done things. It’s called “experience.”

JohnPrine 3y ago
Thanks for the comments, that was really enlightening. Not sure why people on a tech forum seem so eager to dismiss an emerging technology rather than using their imaginations a little
- PH95VuimJjqBqy 3y ago
  no one is doing that, the issue is the overhyping. When claude shannon first came out with his information theory everyone started trying to apply it to everything, discuss everything in terms of his theories. He himself thought it was ridiculous and basically told everyone to stop it. This is no different.