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Having worked on this directly and used basically every other piece of "automation" software available to do this, I can tell you that the GenAI solution is far
by humansareok1 3y ago
Having worked on this directly and used basically every other piece of "automation" software available to do this, I can tell you that the GenAI solution is far superior. It's not close.
- PH95VuimJjqBqy 3y agobecause apparently somehow ChatGPT magically knows what you're trying to extract. Oh it doesn't? odd that. ChatGPT cannot make judgement calls like what you're trying to imply it can. ChatGPT can do some really cool things, but it's not magic.
- fnordpiglet 3y agoIf you tell a multi modal LLM to extract and structure the contents of a PDF it will absolutely be able to do that successfully. Further, they display a surprising ability at abductive “reasoning” (acknowledging of course they don’t reason at all), and are thus able to make pretty reasonable assumption given the semantic context of a request. Unlike traditional extraction tools that require very specific tuning and are very fragile to structural changes in layout, LLMs tend to be very resilient to such things.
- PH95VuimJjqBqy 3y agowhat are you extracting?
- aurareturn 3y agoJust go use GPT4 and try it. You keep repeating the same rhetoric that it doesn’t work but people have made it work, including myself.
- PH95VuimJjqBqy 3y agoI pay for GPT4 enterprise, try again, only this time answer the question.
- aurareturn 3y agoWhy are you paying for enterprise if it’s not useful to you?
- PH95VuimJjqBqy 3y agoit's almost as if you're so hyped over this you take someone cautioning that it's not magic as the enemy. maybe stop doing that. The PDF example being thrown around in this thread. There's a magical step in the middle that no one is acknowledging.
- humansareok1 3y agoWhat Step? Do you think we're lying? I literally have built an application which takes in PDF's and extracts over 2 dozen values from it via prompting with Langchain. Do you think I'm a paid OpenAI sponsor or what? You also realize that OpenAI has a dedicated Document Assistant which will literally extract information from a document you upload using prompts? Are you just unable to get that to work? I just don't know what you arguing at this point, like you're watching people walk backwards and then yelling that it's impossible for humans to walk backwards.
- PH95VuimJjqBqy 3y agoodd that you keep using that word prompts.
- humansareok1 3y agoYes you send a message to the API containing the context you are interested in along with questions about that context the LLM can answer. The parlance commonly used refers to that message as a prompt. I don't know if you're delusional or just completely clueless about how LLM's work.
- humansareok1 3y agoThis guy prompts.
- humansareok1 3y agoHonestly just a skill issue on your part. RAG and one shot learning can get you incredibly far and if you can't figure it out you're ngmi. And no one is using ChatGPT for this lol.
- PH95VuimJjqBqy 3y agooh snap, mr hot-shit has the skillzors.
- humansareok1 3y agoWait do you not realize what a prompt or a context window is? You literally think GPT just does things on it's own? You understand that If I want to extract the Date a letter was sent, who the recipient was, what amount is due on an invoice, etc that I have to send a specific prompt asking that to GPT with the PDF in the context? Do you just literally not know how this works?