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Canadian Government paid $60M for one app

22 points by serengetti 3y ago

whitten 3y ago
So, what did the app do ? Never Mentioned in article
- cbarrick 3y ago
  ArriveCAN was used for sorting out your COVID vaccine requirements before traveling to Canada. Folks had to provide proof of vaccination, travel plans (like where are you going and what's your quarantine plan), etc.
- datavirtue 3y ago
  It generates money for the contractor.
- scohesc 3y ago
  It was made during COVID to make re-entry into the country easier. Included things like quarantine instructions, etc. etc. etc. Now it's being used as a pre-entry customs and declaration tool to fill out information before you arrive to Canada, and allows you to take an "express line" through customs - I have a few Canadian friends that go down south every winter and they have mentioned it really doesn't speed things up as there's still a bottleneck that each passenger getting off the plane needs to complete - although maybe things have changed recently.
  - lm411 3y ago
    For 10,200 people it also had the nice feature of erroneously telling them they had to quarantine or risk fines up to $5000 per day. Oops.
loceng 3y ago
This is the tip of the iceberg of the massive increase in the Trudeau government's spending, and without oversight. There was a 2-person company that was found to have been paid $20 million of that $60 million and did no work. NOTE: the $60 million price tag is only an ESTIMATE as the accounting was so poorly done, the person put in charge to investigate couldn't actually determine how much was spent due to how badly records were kept; which should be default assumed as purposefully done to hide money trails. This Trudeau government has also refused to share with Canadians where exactly the additional $600 million went, which state-funded media companies receive the funds and how much each - on top of the $1.4 billion that CBC (Canadian Broadcasting Company) Received last year - up $200 million from the standard $1.2 billion, for the next 3 years.
- lm411 3y ago
  "It's a chalet! It's not a cottage." These guys are so dirty. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTwHLN-clXQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTwHLN-clXQ
- akudha 3y ago
  Trudeau government has also refused to share with Canadians where exactly the additional $600 How does this happen in a democracy? They say “nah, not gonna tell you” and everyone accepts it? No way to force them to disclose?
  - loceng 3y ago
    The Trudeau-Liberals forms a coalition with the NDP which gave them a defacto majority government + Liberals claim something like Canadians knowing what media-propagandists received how much state-funding media would be a security threat or something like that, so using a certain clause in bad faith to hide who's being rewarded for toeing their line.
  - LudwigNagasena 3y ago
    Because people keep voting for them.
- supsep2 3y ago
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  - loceng 3y ago
    And isn't it interesting how you're parroting the $2.2 billion amount, which was simply an estimate or guess (or propaganda) of how much that could balloon to; unless you have an updated source that's not speculation from 2018? And how much of the responsibility should IBM hold for this failure? Also, I wonder, do you know who in the government actually executed on the policy - even if it a bill was passed by the Conservatives? Was it unelected and unionized government workers who are tasked with it, and was it them who are more responsible or the politicians more responsible? Do you know where I can find that breakdown or are arguments going to stay fairly shallow rather than going deep to investigate where responsibility actually lies, rather than you seeming to try whataboutism that simply reinforces the "lesser of two evils" dichotomy that we've been forced to vote for.

22 points by serengetti 3y ago

whitten 3y ago

So, what did the app do ? Never Mentioned in article

cbarrick 3y ago
ArriveCAN was used for sorting out your COVID vaccine requirements before traveling to Canada. Folks had to provide proof of vaccination, travel plans (like where are you going and what's your quarantine plan), etc.
datavirtue 3y ago
It generates money for the contractor.
scohesc 3y ago
It was made during COVID to make re-entry into the country easier. Included things like quarantine instructions, etc. etc. etc. Now it's being used as a pre-entry customs and declaration tool to fill out information before you arrive to Canada, and allows you to take an "express line" through customs - I have a few Canadian friends that go down south every winter and they have mentioned it really doesn't speed things up as there's still a bottleneck that each passenger getting off the plane needs to complete - although maybe things have changed recently.
- lm411 3y ago
  For 10,200 people it also had the nice feature of erroneously telling them they had to quarantine or risk fines up to $5000 per day. Oops.

loceng 3y ago

This is the tip of the iceberg of the massive increase in the Trudeau government's spending, and without oversight. There was a 2-person company that was found to have been paid $20 million of that $60 million and did no work. NOTE: the $60 million price tag is only an ESTIMATE as the accounting was so poorly done, the person put in charge to investigate couldn't actually determine how much was spent due to how badly records were kept; which should be default assumed as purposefully done to hide money trails. This Trudeau government has also refused to share with Canadians where exactly the additional $600 million went, which state-funded media companies receive the funds and how much each - on top of the $1.4 billion that CBC (Canadian Broadcasting Company) Received last year - up $200 million from the standard $1.2 billion, for the next 3 years.

lm411 3y ago
"It's a chalet! It's not a cottage." These guys are so dirty. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTwHLN-clXQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTwHLN-clXQ
akudha 3y ago
Trudeau government has also refused to share with Canadians where exactly the additional $600 How does this happen in a democracy? They say “nah, not gonna tell you” and everyone accepts it? No way to force them to disclose?
- loceng 3y ago
  The Trudeau-Liberals forms a coalition with the NDP which gave them a defacto majority government + Liberals claim something like Canadians knowing what media-propagandists received how much state-funding media would be a security threat or something like that, so using a certain clause in bad faith to hide who's being rewarded for toeing their line.
- LudwigNagasena 3y ago
  Because people keep voting for them.
supsep2 3y ago
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- loceng 3y ago
  And isn't it interesting how you're parroting the $2.2 billion amount, which was simply an estimate or guess (or propaganda) of how much that could balloon to; unless you have an updated source that's not speculation from 2018? And how much of the responsibility should IBM hold for this failure? Also, I wonder, do you know who in the government actually executed on the policy - even if it a bill was passed by the Conservatives? Was it unelected and unionized government workers who are tasked with it, and was it them who are more responsible or the politicians more responsible? Do you know where I can find that breakdown or are arguments going to stay fairly shallow rather than going deep to investigate where responsibility actually lies, rather than you seeming to try whataboutism that simply reinforces the "lesser of two evils" dichotomy that we've been forced to vote for.