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The First Buenos Aires Hacker News Meetup in 908 days is tonight

36 points by rubyrescue 14y ago

loboman 14y ago
Please fix the title, the meeting is not in two years
- alainbryden 14y ago
  He means it's the first one in 908 days, not it's the first one and it's in 908 days :p
  - rubyrescue 14y ago
    i just tried to clarify
  - loboman 14y ago
    Ah, thanks
sohn 14y ago
908 days!!
rubyrescue 14y ago
Last time barmstrong, AndrewWarner, and rubyrescue were here. This time it's playtomic and inaka. Times change, prices go up by 300%, a few of us are still here, a few new foreigners have arrived, a lot of porteños have started using HN since then. It's time to get a regular meetup going...
- AndrewWarner 14y ago
  At the last one, I met people who helped me think through my ideas and figure out how to solve basic problems (like getting my iPhone to work locally). I even met people who I hope will be life-long friends, like rubyrescue and his wife.
drats 14y ago
Argentina seems to be ranked as among the worst places in the world, besides actual war zones, in terms of economic freedom and political corruption type rankings. The currency isn't stable either and the government is appropriating private assets when they feel like it. You'd have to be insane to start a business there, but maybe the main topic of your meeting will be how to get out. I mean you could technically try to start one there, but you'd have to take a long look in the mirror first and answer the question "why not just move to Chile?".
- rubyrescue 14y ago
  It depends on the business. There are a lot of people bootstrapping here but their business is in the US or Europe. The cost of living is still a lot less than those places, the weather is great, talent is good, etc. It's true the government is insane, but the average small startup here is below the radar from that stuff.
  - drats 14y ago
    But a lot of those factors apply to Chile and it's even quite close if friends and family are a factor. They are 88 places better on the corruption index and about 151 places better on economic freedom index, plus the government has an innovative technology accelerator program. Those are massive differences. Indeed it's probably one of the top differences for neighbours in the whole world besides North and South Korea. Chile also seems to have better education, as last I checked a significant portion of Argentinians haven't even completed primary school. But perhaps competition to hire talent is greater as well. It seems to me Argentina is in a pretty dire situation at the moment. There is even a, small but real, possibility things could collapse into a failed state or dictatorship if the economic situation spirals out of control. Edit: The economic freedom gap is actually bigger than South and North Korea! Argentina (158th of 179) is only just hovering above the failed states/dictatorships. I expect next years ranking will also be worse as things have gotten worse.
    - dfgonzalez 14y ago
      > There is even a, small but real, possibility things could collapse into a failed state or dictatorship if the economic situation spirals out of control. Not a chance. At all.
j-Monkey 14y ago
Argentina no esta al borde de una dictadura, argentina da educación gratis y te paga si vas a la UNIVERSIDAD y te dedicas a estudiar, en Chile su educación es privada, acá nosotros tenemos derecho y libertad de expresión, y no somos censurados por leyes absurdas incrustadas en leyes de comercio, Chile lo esta por hacer de forma secreta, ocultándole al pueblo la verdad de leyes como ACTA o como le querían llamar ahora, YPF es nuestra y nuca se debería haber vendido, REPSOL no cumplía con los pactos de abastecimiento (hs estuve esperando para cagar nafta en mi moto), si es verdad los políticos todos son horribles, ladrones, deshonestos, pero por lo menos no tenemos una dictadura como Colombia, Bolivia o Chile.
- alecco 14y ago
  NO POLITICS HERE, PLEASE.
j-Monkey 14y ago
Argentina is not on the verge of a dictatorship, Argentina provides free education and you'll pay if you do the UNIVERSITY and to examine, in Chile is private education, here we have the right and freedom of expression, and are not censored by absurd laws embedded in trade laws, Chile it is done in secret, hiding the people the truth of laws such as ACTA or wanted to call him now, YPF is ours and neck should have been sold, REPSOL did not comply with the covenants of supply (I am waiting to shit on my bike naphtha), if it is true politicians are all horrible, thieves, dishonest, but at least we have a dictatorship like Colombia, Bolivia or Chile.

36 points by rubyrescue 14y ago

loboman 14y ago

Please fix the title, the meeting is not in two years

alainbryden 14y ago
He means it's the first one in 908 days, not it's the first one and it's in 908 days :p
- rubyrescue 14y ago
  i just tried to clarify
- loboman 14y ago
  Ah, thanks

sohn 14y ago

908 days!!

rubyrescue 14y ago

Last time barmstrong, AndrewWarner, and rubyrescue were here. This time it's playtomic and inaka. Times change, prices go up by 300%, a few of us are still here, a few new foreigners have arrived, a lot of porteños have started using HN since then. It's time to get a regular meetup going...

AndrewWarner 14y ago
At the last one, I met people who helped me think through my ideas and figure out how to solve basic problems (like getting my iPhone to work locally). I even met people who I hope will be life-long friends, like rubyrescue and his wife.

drats 14y ago

Argentina seems to be ranked as among the worst places in the world, besides actual war zones, in terms of economic freedom and political corruption type rankings. The currency isn't stable either and the government is appropriating private assets when they feel like it. You'd have to be insane to start a business there, but maybe the main topic of your meeting will be how to get out. I mean you could technically try to start one there, but you'd have to take a long look in the mirror first and answer the question "why not just move to Chile?".

rubyrescue 14y ago
It depends on the business. There are a lot of people bootstrapping here but their business is in the US or Europe. The cost of living is still a lot less than those places, the weather is great, talent is good, etc. It's true the government is insane, but the average small startup here is below the radar from that stuff.
- drats 14y ago
  But a lot of those factors apply to Chile and it's even quite close if friends and family are a factor. They are 88 places better on the corruption index and about 151 places better on economic freedom index, plus the government has an innovative technology accelerator program. Those are massive differences. Indeed it's probably one of the top differences for neighbours in the whole world besides North and South Korea. Chile also seems to have better education, as last I checked a significant portion of Argentinians haven't even completed primary school. But perhaps competition to hire talent is greater as well. It seems to me Argentina is in a pretty dire situation at the moment. There is even a, small but real, possibility things could collapse into a failed state or dictatorship if the economic situation spirals out of control. Edit: The economic freedom gap is actually bigger than South and North Korea! Argentina (158th of 179) is only just hovering above the failed states/dictatorships. I expect next years ranking will also be worse as things have gotten worse.
  - dfgonzalez 14y ago
    > There is even a, small but real, possibility things could collapse into a failed state or dictatorship if the economic situation spirals out of control. Not a chance. At all.

j-Monkey 14y ago

Argentina no esta al borde de una dictadura, argentina da educación gratis y te paga si vas a la UNIVERSIDAD y te dedicas a estudiar, en Chile su educación es privada, acá nosotros tenemos derecho y libertad de expresión, y no somos censurados por leyes absurdas incrustadas en leyes de comercio, Chile lo esta por hacer de forma secreta, ocultándole al pueblo la verdad de leyes como ACTA o como le querían llamar ahora, YPF es nuestra y nuca se debería haber vendido, REPSOL no cumplía con los pactos de abastecimiento (hs estuve esperando para cagar nafta en mi moto), si es verdad los políticos todos son horribles, ladrones, deshonestos, pero por lo menos no tenemos una dictadura como Colombia, Bolivia o Chile.

alecco 14y ago
NO POLITICS HERE, PLEASE.

j-Monkey 14y ago

Argentina is not on the verge of a dictatorship, Argentina provides free education and you'll pay if you do the UNIVERSITY and to examine, in Chile is private education, here we have the right and freedom of expression, and are not censored by absurd laws embedded in trade laws, Chile it is done in secret, hiding the people the truth of laws such as ACTA or wanted to call him now, YPF is ours and neck should have been sold, REPSOL did not comply with the covenants of supply (I am waiting to shit on my bike naphtha), if it is true politicians are all horrible, thieves, dishonest, but at least we have a dictatorship like Colombia, Bolivia or Chile.