> E.g. in Britain plenty of people cycle despite the terrible infrastructure and hills. Of course it's not the full story! I'm not claiming that zero cycling h

> E.g. in Britain plenty of people cycle despite the terrible infrastructure and hills. Of course it's not the full story! I'm not claiming that zero cycling happens here in Britain. > Besides, now we have electric bikes and e-scooters so hills shouldn't really be a barrier. Now, yes. But cultural development takes a while, and those options are just much more expensive anyway. The Netherlands has about the ideal case for cycling, and - awesomely - they took advantage of that 50 years ago, so if it works anywhere it should work there today, after 50 years of planning and development and culture. Suddenly introducing e-bikes in 2024 isn't going to do much compared to flat country and 50 years of development.