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Good lord. My first read of this I was convinced it was satire. > The dating giant says it long term plan is to squeeze artificial intelligence into “literally

Good lord. My first read of this I was convinced it was satire. > The dating giant says it long term plan is to squeeze artificial intelligence into “literally everything” in its apps. > The company celebrated its new partnership with a press release written by ChatGPT... It includes quotes supposedly penned by the AI itself, as though it has its own feelings about corporate strategy. “I’m thrilled that Match Group matched with me,” ChatGPT said. “Together, we’re not just breaking the ice; we’re melting it, and reshaping the way work gets done.”

AlexandrB 3y ago
> > The dating giant says it long term plan is to squeeze artificial intelligence into “literally everything” in its apps. Classic symptom of tech hype. Remember when companies were trying to squeeze "the blockchain" into literally everything?
- hn_throwaway_99 3y ago
  I definitely agree there is a ton of over-hyping going on with AI, but I don't like the idea of lumping it all together with "the blockchain". Around 2017 I worked for a fintech company who was going to "sprinkle in some blockchain" everywhere, and it was an unmitigated disaster. I kept thinking "Why, again, can't we just use a database for this?" In fairness to our execs, every time we said we'd sprinkle in some blockchain we'd get a higher valuation and more funding from VCs, so there was that incentive... With AI, while again I feel it's overhyped, I personally get tons of value in my day-to-day work life with ChatGPT, e.g. having it summarize documentation for features I'm not aware of, quickly writing some snippets of code for me, looking up some relevant regulations, etc. (and before the cries of "BUT HALLLLUCINATIONS!!!" - I know, I'm not an idiot, I use ChatGPT for the start of my investigations, not the end). So I see tons of real value in AI (even if I also see tons of places where that little "magic star" icon is starting to get really annoying) in a way where I never saw commensurate value in blockchain.
  - kjkjadksj 3y ago
    It is interesting how all the value you are getting from the ai seems to be from the fact modern web search is broken.
    - EnergyAmy 3y ago
      It's not just search being broken, it's much of the web being an ad-ridden morass. With a great search engine, I could get directed to a bunch of shitty sites that may or may not have what I'm looking for, if I can find it under the half-dozen overlays for cookies and newsletters. Or I could just use one, simple interface that lets me ask specific follow-up questions that are relevant to my use case. I'll take the risk of hallucinations over one more "Before we show you this recipe, here's the history of food" any day.
    - hn_throwaway_99 3y ago
      That's part of it but I wouldn't overstate that. Even if Google hadn't been enshittified with ads, blogspam and SEO cruft, I'd still prefer ChatGPT for all the same cases I love it for now. For example, I love how ChatGPT lets me "search" for things when I don't even know the name/keywords of things to search for, but instead I can ask it in natural language for example "I'm trying to generate this kind of view in SQL, how would I do that?" - at the very least ChatGPT will inform me of some json operator or window function I didn't know about, so now at least I'm "grounded" in what to search for. And I think more importantly, even if search did bring back the exact correct webpage in answer to my question, the interactive nature of ChatGPT and the ability to ask it questions specific to my detailed, individual use case are invaluable and just much faster.
    - amluto 3y ago
      ChatGPT is decently good at synthesizing coherent, on-point docs out of the generally messy stuff online. Even when Google was good, it couldn’t do this. (ChatGPT is merely decently good, not perfect or anywhere near close. But it’s still useful.)
      - neuralRiot 3y ago
- eastbound 3y ago
  Well, although it was stupid, it wasn’t altering the value proposition. With Tinder, I’m already persuaded I’m paying $30pm to chat with 70% bots, and there are countless memes saying “Say potato” to botgirls who always answer the same scripts; But Tinder partnering with ChatGPT to fake profiles that increase customer value?
- jprete 3y ago
  The blockchain merely robbed naive people of their money. Stuffing AI into dating is an even stronger way to commodify people than dating apps themselves were.
NewJazz 3y ago
Literally the place people go to escape the algorithm and meet real people... And they're so ready to ignore their users' scientifically proven emotional need for in-person connection so they can juice some numbers for a few quarters.
- pixl97 3y ago
  The reason we have regulations is businesses will follow the path of money straight to hell.
  - earthwalker99 3y ago
    ...which makes businesses overall look bad. The US doesn't have regulations that protect workers and consumers. The few regulations we have are all ultimately to protect capital.
- Simulacra 3y ago
  Literally the place people go to escape the algorithm and meet real people Is it really? I think if anything Tinder has been disastrous for dating, and the place where people need to go to meet real people..is in real life.
  - NewJazz 3y ago
    Yeah good point. Guess they are just doubling down on young people staying down bad.
mc32 3y ago
Will this end up in a situation where chatGPT hits on itself and finds that it’s narcissistically attracting itself? Or does chatGPT end up being an alternate dog-wingman like where dogs in the park introduce their masters to each other?
_yb2s 3y ago
That ChatGPT quote is the best ever... worthy of Mike Judge
- red-iron-pine 3y ago
  the guy who famously brought us "I AM CORNHOLIO! I NEED TP FOR MY BUNGHOLE!", "Pocket-sand! sha-sha!", and "Go away, 'batin!"?

AlexandrB 3y ago

> > The dating giant says it long term plan is to squeeze artificial intelligence into “literally everything” in its apps. Classic symptom of tech hype. Remember when companies were trying to squeeze "the blockchain" into literally everything?

hn_throwaway_99 3y ago
I definitely agree there is a ton of over-hyping going on with AI, but I don't like the idea of lumping it all together with "the blockchain". Around 2017 I worked for a fintech company who was going to "sprinkle in some blockchain" everywhere, and it was an unmitigated disaster. I kept thinking "Why, again, can't we just use a database for this?" In fairness to our execs, every time we said we'd sprinkle in some blockchain we'd get a higher valuation and more funding from VCs, so there was that incentive... With AI, while again I feel it's overhyped, I personally get tons of value in my day-to-day work life with ChatGPT, e.g. having it summarize documentation for features I'm not aware of, quickly writing some snippets of code for me, looking up some relevant regulations, etc. (and before the cries of "BUT HALLLLUCINATIONS!!!" - I know, I'm not an idiot, I use ChatGPT for the start of my investigations, not the end). So I see tons of real value in AI (even if I also see tons of places where that little "magic star" icon is starting to get really annoying) in a way where I never saw commensurate value in blockchain.
- kjkjadksj 3y ago
  It is interesting how all the value you are getting from the ai seems to be from the fact modern web search is broken.
  - EnergyAmy 3y ago
    It's not just search being broken, it's much of the web being an ad-ridden morass. With a great search engine, I could get directed to a bunch of shitty sites that may or may not have what I'm looking for, if I can find it under the half-dozen overlays for cookies and newsletters. Or I could just use one, simple interface that lets me ask specific follow-up questions that are relevant to my use case. I'll take the risk of hallucinations over one more "Before we show you this recipe, here's the history of food" any day.
  - hn_throwaway_99 3y ago
    That's part of it but I wouldn't overstate that. Even if Google hadn't been enshittified with ads, blogspam and SEO cruft, I'd still prefer ChatGPT for all the same cases I love it for now. For example, I love how ChatGPT lets me "search" for things when I don't even know the name/keywords of things to search for, but instead I can ask it in natural language for example "I'm trying to generate this kind of view in SQL, how would I do that?" - at the very least ChatGPT will inform me of some json operator or window function I didn't know about, so now at least I'm "grounded" in what to search for. And I think more importantly, even if search did bring back the exact correct webpage in answer to my question, the interactive nature of ChatGPT and the ability to ask it questions specific to my detailed, individual use case are invaluable and just much faster.
  - amluto 3y ago
    ChatGPT is decently good at synthesizing coherent, on-point docs out of the generally messy stuff online. Even when Google was good, it couldn’t do this. (ChatGPT is merely decently good, not perfect or anywhere near close. But it’s still useful.)
    - neuralRiot 3y ago
eastbound 3y ago
Well, although it was stupid, it wasn’t altering the value proposition. With Tinder, I’m already persuaded I’m paying $30pm to chat with 70% bots, and there are countless memes saying “Say potato” to botgirls who always answer the same scripts; But Tinder partnering with ChatGPT to fake profiles that increase customer value?
jprete 3y ago
The blockchain merely robbed naive people of their money. Stuffing AI into dating is an even stronger way to commodify people than dating apps themselves were.

NewJazz 3y ago

Literally the place people go to escape the algorithm and meet real people... And they're so ready to ignore their users' scientifically proven emotional need for in-person connection so they can juice some numbers for a few quarters.

pixl97 3y ago
The reason we have regulations is businesses will follow the path of money straight to hell.
- earthwalker99 3y ago
  ...which makes businesses overall look bad. The US doesn't have regulations that protect workers and consumers. The few regulations we have are all ultimately to protect capital.
Simulacra 3y ago
Literally the place people go to escape the algorithm and meet real people Is it really? I think if anything Tinder has been disastrous for dating, and the place where people need to go to meet real people..is in real life.
- NewJazz 3y ago
  Yeah good point. Guess they are just doubling down on young people staying down bad.

mc32 3y ago

Will this end up in a situation where chatGPT hits on itself and finds that it’s narcissistically attracting itself? Or does chatGPT end up being an alternate dog-wingman like where dogs in the park introduce their masters to each other?

_yb2s 3y ago

That ChatGPT quote is the best ever... worthy of Mike Judge

red-iron-pine 3y ago
the guy who famously brought us "I AM CORNHOLIO! I NEED TP FOR MY BUNGHOLE!", "Pocket-sand! sha-sha!", and "Go away, 'batin!"?