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> No matter the cause of COVID If the cause of COVID had nothing to do with infectious disease labs, food standards, or air filtration, then those three action

> No matter the cause of COVID If the cause of COVID had nothing to do with infectious disease labs, food standards, or air filtration, then those three action items would be irrelevant. If the cause of COVID was acute poisoning combined with a global, coordinated psychological operation, then you've got bigger fish to fry.

consumer451 3y ago
So you are saying, take no steps would logically reduce the chances of the next pandemic. Instead, let's focus on the Illuminati or something? What poisoning caused all our ERs to overflow during the pandemic?
- realreality 3y ago
  > So you are saying, take no steps would logically reduce the chances of the next pandemic. The fact that none of the (seemingly non-controversial) action items are being addressed should tell you something about how our leaders think. Instead, they're proposing plans for the next pandemic which amount to more authoritarian surveillance and control. > What poisoning caused all our ERs to overflow during the pandemic? I suggest you look into it. ERs weren't all overflowing. https://www.woodhouse76.com/p/new-york-city-er-visits-plummeted https://www.woodhouse76.com/p/new-york-city-er-visits-plumme...
  - consumer451 3y ago
    I'm just amazed how they got all of these nurses in on the conspiracy! https://old.reddit.com/r/nursing/search?q=covid+overflow&sort=relevance&t=all https://old.reddit.com/r/nursing/search?q=covid+overflow&sor...
throwanem 3y ago
If my grandmother had wheels - oh, what's the use?
ben_w 3y ago
> If the cause of COVID had nothing to do with infectious disease labs, food standards, or air filtration, then those three action items would be irrelevant. Not so, because the first two will reduce the rate at which new pandemics emerge. I'm not so sure about the value of the third, as while the will reduce the rate at which any specific airborne infection spreads, that just means the next pandemic needs the set of traits which make it survive longer while airborne e.g. what the common cold already has. > If the cause of COVID was acute poisoning combined with a global, coordinated psychological operation, then you've got bigger fish to fry. Indeed, but both bio labs and wet markets were known to be potential risks before hand, the former being why we even have a biohazard warning icon and why biosafety levels are defined. Those risks still exist, the wet markets just need to end completely, while for the bio labs it's always good to have people imagining various ways things could go wrong in order to make them not actually go wrong outside of our imagination.
- realreality 3y ago
  > Not so, because the first two will reduce the rate at which new pandemics emerge I agree that those items are worth doing for other reasons. But I also question whether pandemics even operate in the way that we've been conditioned to believe. > Those risks still exist, the wet markets just need to end completely, while for the bio labs it's always good to have people imagining various ways things could go wrong in order to make them not actually go wrong outside of our imagination. The fact that biolabs haven't been regulated at all (in fact, even the notion of investigating biolab safety has become some sort of partisan issue) should be a huge clue that the COVID response has been a political operation.
  - ben_w 3y ago
    > The fact that biolabs haven't been regulated at all (in fact, even the notion of investigating biolab safety has become some sort of partisan issue) should be a huge clue that the COVID response has been a political operation. ??? They were already heavily regulated before, and still are now. And that includes in China, where we don't get to talk much about "partisan" issues owing their government treating any discussion of their own imperfection as some kind of foreign dissent attempt.

consumer451 3y ago

So you are saying, take no steps would logically reduce the chances of the next pandemic. Instead, let's focus on the Illuminati or something? What poisoning caused all our ERs to overflow during the pandemic?

realreality 3y ago
> So you are saying, take no steps would logically reduce the chances of the next pandemic. The fact that none of the (seemingly non-controversial) action items are being addressed should tell you something about how our leaders think. Instead, they're proposing plans for the next pandemic which amount to more authoritarian surveillance and control. > What poisoning caused all our ERs to overflow during the pandemic? I suggest you look into it. ERs weren't all overflowing. https://www.woodhouse76.com/p/new-york-city-er-visits-plummeted https://www.woodhouse76.com/p/new-york-city-er-visits-plumme...
- consumer451 3y ago
  I'm just amazed how they got all of these nurses in on the conspiracy! https://old.reddit.com/r/nursing/search?q=covid+overflow&sort=relevance&t=all https://old.reddit.com/r/nursing/search?q=covid+overflow&sor...

throwanem 3y ago

If my grandmother had wheels - oh, what's the use?

ben_w 3y ago

> If the cause of COVID had nothing to do with infectious disease labs, food standards, or air filtration, then those three action items would be irrelevant. Not so, because the first two will reduce the rate at which new pandemics emerge. I'm not so sure about the value of the third, as while the will reduce the rate at which any specific airborne infection spreads, that just means the next pandemic needs the set of traits which make it survive longer while airborne e.g. what the common cold already has. > If the cause of COVID was acute poisoning combined with a global, coordinated psychological operation, then you've got bigger fish to fry. Indeed, but both bio labs and wet markets were known to be potential risks before hand, the former being why we even have a biohazard warning icon and why biosafety levels are defined. Those risks still exist, the wet markets just need to end completely, while for the bio labs it's always good to have people imagining various ways things could go wrong in order to make them not actually go wrong outside of our imagination.

realreality 3y ago
> Not so, because the first two will reduce the rate at which new pandemics emerge I agree that those items are worth doing for other reasons. But I also question whether pandemics even operate in the way that we've been conditioned to believe. > Those risks still exist, the wet markets just need to end completely, while for the bio labs it's always good to have people imagining various ways things could go wrong in order to make them not actually go wrong outside of our imagination. The fact that biolabs haven't been regulated at all (in fact, even the notion of investigating biolab safety has become some sort of partisan issue) should be a huge clue that the COVID response has been a political operation.
- ben_w 3y ago
  > The fact that biolabs haven't been regulated at all (in fact, even the notion of investigating biolab safety has become some sort of partisan issue) should be a huge clue that the COVID response has been a political operation. ??? They were already heavily regulated before, and still are now. And that includes in China, where we don't get to talk much about "partisan" issues owing their government treating any discussion of their own imperfection as some kind of foreign dissent attempt.