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EDIT: After checking what has passed, everything I wrote seems to hold up. Source: https://www.bundesgesundheitsministerium.de/service/gesetze-und-verordnunge

EDIT: After checking what has passed, everything I wrote seems to hold up. Source: https://www.bundesgesundheitsministerium.de/service/gesetze-und-verordnungen/detail/cannabisgesetz.html https://www.bundesgesundheitsministerium.de/service/gesetze-... I've not looked into what exactly passed, but the proposal was joke. Even more so, it was joke regardless where you stand on this topic - and that's quite an achievement. The proposal was constructed in a way that it technically legalized, but in a way that I'm sure will be of no practical relevance. According to the proposal, to buy legally you had to be a member of a registered club, so no anonymity. The club could only sell what it produces (three plants per member) and could only have a restricted number of members. The club can sell at most 50 g per month, it needs an addiction prevention officer, it cannot be near a kindergarden, and so on. Very bureaucratic, so these clubs will be exactly as popular as intended.

hef19898 3y ago
It is a first step so, isn't it?
- weinzierl 3y ago
  My opinion: The law is constructed such that the parties that promised it (and are now in the government) can keep face (especially in the light of the upcoming elections), but that it will not have any practical relevance.
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diggan 3y ago
> According to the proposal, to use legally you had to be a member of s club, so no anonymity. The club could only sell what it produces and could only have a couple of members. This is basically how it works in Barcelona, Spain as well. I don't think it's legal/illegal nationwide, but we have invite-only social clubs where you can only become a member if you know existing members. I think (but I'm not sure) there is a maximum number of members per club too. And you don't "buy" weed there, but you contribute money to the organization, and you may withdraw this contribution in the future as weed. Seems to work out just fine here.
brodo 3y ago
That’s wrong. You don’t have to be a member of a club to consume legally. Consumption has always been legal. Ownership was banned and is now legal for up to 50 grams.
- weinzierl 3y ago
  To consume you have to own, so consumption was not legal. Ownership is now legal for 25 grams if they are from your own plants or from the plants of another member of the club you are registered with.
lm28469 3y ago
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- verticalscaler 3y ago
  You're about to be downvoted and flagged by people who have never been to Berlin. Edit: Great googly moogly I must be clairvoyant.
  - hef19898 3y ago
    No, the reason is the racism.
    - lm28469 3y ago
      What's racist about it ? Feel free to check the official stats of any western countries, or are numbers racist too ?
      - hef19898 3y ago
        The fable of linking illegal migrants to rape and drug trafficking when number show no such thing at scale. Also, how do you tell a illegal from a legal migrant? Did you go to your rapist drug den park and ask for papers?
        lm28469 3y ago
        > Also, how do you tell a illegal from a legal migrant? Believe it or not but when you gang rape people in the middle of a public park you usually get arrested and prosecuted, then your identity and status are given to the public. > The fable of linking illegal migrants to rape and drug trafficking when number show no such thing at scale. Again, every country releasing data about it proves the contrary, take france, every single crime category has an over representation of foreigners: https://www.insee.fr/fr/statistiques/5763585?sommaire=5763633 https://www.insee.fr/fr/statistiques/5763585?sommaire=576363... https://www.insee.fr/fr/statistiques/5763559?sommaire=5763633 https://www.insee.fr/fr/statistiques/5763559?sommaire=576363... And it's not even descendant of legal migrants &c. it's just people who don't have the nationality. In big cities it's even worse, in Paris public transports 65% of sexual assaults are committed by foreigners, 93% of thefts too. I'm all for discussing the various causes but if your ideology is so strong you can't accept official stats I think it's pointless, continue to live in your imagined world and we'll continue to avoid our local park at night because we're racist. Also for Berlin, 22% of foreigners, 50%+ of rapes committed by foreigners, https://rmx.news/crime/germany-nearly-300-gang-rapes-recorded-in-berlin-since-2020-and-more-than-half-were-committed-by-foreigners/ https://rmx.news/crime/germany-nearly-300-gang-rapes-recorde...

hef19898 3y ago

It is a first step so, isn't it?

weinzierl 3y ago
My opinion: The law is constructed such that the parties that promised it (and are now in the government) can keep face (especially in the light of the upcoming elections), but that it will not have any practical relevance.

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diggan 3y ago

> According to the proposal, to use legally you had to be a member of s club, so no anonymity. The club could only sell what it produces and could only have a couple of members. This is basically how it works in Barcelona, Spain as well. I don't think it's legal/illegal nationwide, but we have invite-only social clubs where you can only become a member if you know existing members. I think (but I'm not sure) there is a maximum number of members per club too. And you don't "buy" weed there, but you contribute money to the organization, and you may withdraw this contribution in the future as weed. Seems to work out just fine here.

brodo 3y ago

That’s wrong. You don’t have to be a member of a club to consume legally. Consumption has always been legal. Ownership was banned and is now legal for up to 50 grams.

weinzierl 3y ago
To consume you have to own, so consumption was not legal. Ownership is now legal for 25 grams if they are from your own plants or from the plants of another member of the club you are registered with.

lm28469 3y ago

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verticalscaler 3y ago
You're about to be downvoted and flagged by people who have never been to Berlin. Edit: Great googly moogly I must be clairvoyant.
- hef19898 3y ago
  No, the reason is the racism.
  - lm28469 3y ago
    What's racist about it ? Feel free to check the official stats of any western countries, or are numbers racist too ?
    - hef19898 3y ago
      The fable of linking illegal migrants to rape and drug trafficking when number show no such thing at scale. Also, how do you tell a illegal from a legal migrant? Did you go to your rapist drug den park and ask for papers?
      - lm28469 3y ago
        > Also, how do you tell a illegal from a legal migrant? Believe it or not but when you gang rape people in the middle of a public park you usually get arrested and prosecuted, then your identity and status are given to the public. > The fable of linking illegal migrants to rape and drug trafficking when number show no such thing at scale. Again, every country releasing data about it proves the contrary, take france, every single crime category has an over representation of foreigners: https://www.insee.fr/fr/statistiques/5763585?sommaire=5763633 https://www.insee.fr/fr/statistiques/5763585?sommaire=576363... https://www.insee.fr/fr/statistiques/5763559?sommaire=5763633 https://www.insee.fr/fr/statistiques/5763559?sommaire=576363... And it's not even descendant of legal migrants &c. it's just people who don't have the nationality. In big cities it's even worse, in Paris public transports 65% of sexual assaults are committed by foreigners, 93% of thefts too. I'm all for discussing the various causes but if your ideology is so strong you can't accept official stats I think it's pointless, continue to live in your imagined world and we'll continue to avoid our local park at night because we're racist. Also for Berlin, 22% of foreigners, 50%+ of rapes committed by foreigners, https://rmx.news/crime/germany-nearly-300-gang-rapes-recorded-in-berlin-since-2020-and-more-than-half-were-committed-by-foreigners/ https://rmx.news/crime/germany-nearly-300-gang-rapes-recorde...