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How do they support this financially?

by greymalik 3y ago

temp0826 3y ago
They're at the top of the pyramid for their shitcoin. Probably one of the best modern grifts out there.
- rekoil 3y ago
  And regular advertising (where the audience doesn't get paid for consuming adverts) isn't a grift?
  - bheadmaster 3y ago
    Regular advertising doesn't promise the user that they will get paid for clicking ads. Regardless, whataboutism doesn't make Brave's scheme any less of a grift.
    - rekoil 3y ago
      Fair enough, but you do get paid so that isn't a broken promise or anything, it's just not that much because their ad network hasn't really been much of an ad network. I had it enabled for a while, thought it was a great idea, but it's so little money that I've gone back to just disabling it personally.
    - salad-tycoon 3y ago
      You don’t need to click the ads. You swipe them away. It’s based on attention not clicking. Not trying to be pedantic but it’s a difference. You can also disable them. I did. Although when I had them on actually got some pretty good deals. Anyways, I just use safari these days and brave lives for YouTube for me to bypass ads and download for offline viewing.
  - kibwen 3y ago
    Who ever said regular advertising isn't a grift? Advertising in general is just psychological manipulation designed to make you sadder and poorer by manufacturing a specific discontent in the victim and then selling them a supposed cure for that discontent.
    - rekoil 3y ago
      Then isn't it better when they're upfront about it?
      - kibwen 3y ago
        If someone's going to kick me in the groin, then I suppose it's technically better to be up-front about the fact that they're going to kick me in the groin, but in truth I'd just rather not be kicked in the groin at all, thanks.
CaffeinatedDev 3y ago
They are running mixtral, which is open source, so they can keep LLM costs to a minimum since they're probably running on their own hardware Also I think they have loads of funding, and are factoring all of this into user acquisition costs
soundnote 3y ago
The AI, specifically? Pretty strict usage limits for free users and a paid plan is the plan, it looks like.

How do they support this financially?

temp0826 3y ago

They're at the top of the pyramid for their shitcoin. Probably one of the best modern grifts out there.

rekoil 3y ago
And regular advertising (where the audience doesn't get paid for consuming adverts) isn't a grift?
- bheadmaster 3y ago
  Regular advertising doesn't promise the user that they will get paid for clicking ads. Regardless, whataboutism doesn't make Brave's scheme any less of a grift.
  - rekoil 3y ago
    Fair enough, but you do get paid so that isn't a broken promise or anything, it's just not that much because their ad network hasn't really been much of an ad network. I had it enabled for a while, thought it was a great idea, but it's so little money that I've gone back to just disabling it personally.
  - salad-tycoon 3y ago
    You don’t need to click the ads. You swipe them away. It’s based on attention not clicking. Not trying to be pedantic but it’s a difference. You can also disable them. I did. Although when I had them on actually got some pretty good deals. Anyways, I just use safari these days and brave lives for YouTube for me to bypass ads and download for offline viewing.
- kibwen 3y ago
  Who ever said regular advertising isn't a grift? Advertising in general is just psychological manipulation designed to make you sadder and poorer by manufacturing a specific discontent in the victim and then selling them a supposed cure for that discontent.
  - rekoil 3y ago
    Then isn't it better when they're upfront about it?
    - kibwen 3y ago
      If someone's going to kick me in the groin, then I suppose it's technically better to be up-front about the fact that they're going to kick me in the groin, but in truth I'd just rather not be kicked in the groin at all, thanks.

CaffeinatedDev 3y ago

They are running mixtral, which is open source, so they can keep LLM costs to a minimum since they're probably running on their own hardware Also I think they have loads of funding, and are factoring all of this into user acquisition costs

soundnote 3y ago

The AI, specifically? Pretty strict usage limits for free users and a paid plan is the plan, it looks like.