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It seems like CarPlay an Android Auto should work against this trend. Maybe cars with those features aren't entering the pool fast enough to overcome how much o

It seems like CarPlay an Android Auto should work against this trend. Maybe cars with those features aren't entering the pool fast enough to overcome how much our attention on our phones is growing?

unnamed76ri 3y ago
Except when CarPlay(can’t speak to Android) doesn't work as intended, requiring you to still pick up your phone after you tried to accomplish something on CarPlay. I’m on the road about 3,000 miles/mo and CarPlay not functioning properly happens so often that I don’t even really notice anymore how often I have to pick up my phone.
- prmoustache 3y ago
  The correct thing to do in that case is to stop before picking up your phone and if it happens to much stop using it altogether and switch to a more reliable system.
  - sokoloff 3y ago
    And not driving at all for the entire day if you slept poorly the night before. And pulling over into a parking lot before attending to your toddler’s question. Follow at a safe distance. Slow down in rain. Completely stop at stop signs. Strictly follow speed limits in residential areas. And a thousand other things that unreliable humans aren’t going to do 100% of the time, but if done would improve safety.
  - unnamed76ri 3y ago
    What system is available for iPhone that is more reliable than CarPlay?
prmoustache 3y ago
Are you pretending people can't be distracted by choosing which song on spotify they want on android auto or car play? distracted != tapping on your phone Having a handless call in your car arguing about what to buy at groceries in your return trip from work with your significant other can be a dangerous distraction. Sure your eyes may be steered towards the road but your focus might be somewhere else and make you miss important stuff. Or telling the kids at the back to shut up and stop fighting. I wish people would be more aware of that and wouldn't think they can just drive their car as if it was an extension to their living room.
- neallindsay 3y ago
  No, of course you can be distracted operating the infotainment systems in your car, but directly manipulating your phone is much worse.
bouncing 3y ago
I could see people still being distracted scrolling through podcasts.
- P_I_Staker 3y ago
  And for some reason voice commands for podcasts have never been figured out. "Play a different episode" "Sorry, I have no idea how to do that" Them: Be scared. AI is really smart and is going to take your job. In fairness, I think there's reasons they're intentionally making it different to select what you want to play... but WTF is up with that, too.
  - bouncing 3y ago
    My favorite is, some time around last summer, whenever I told Google to play the latest episode of Wait Wait Don’t Tell Me, it invariably plays some random unrelated (not even a similar name) music on Spotify.
    - tzs 3y ago
      I have no idea if this would work with Google, but I've noticed with Alexa it seems less likely to play a song when I ask for a non-song if I tell it to "listen" to the non-song rather than to "play" the non-song.
- JKCalhoun 3y ago
  As the user replying to you said, there are voice commands. But I get what you are saying — not everyone knows about or trusts the fidelity of the voice software. I wonder though if Apple and Android could remove non-voice functionality from their platforms thereby forcing users to use voice to navigate certain features like song selection. Or perhaps changing songs mechanically can only be done when the velocity of the vehicle is zero. I suspect people will be pissed off about those changes, but I think if I were CEO and had the authority, I would sleep better at night knowing I am doing everything to try to curtail pedestrian deaths because of my product.
Amezarak 3y ago
People are making snaps (I see ZILLIONS of stories made by car drivers), scrolling through TikTok, watching YouTube, sending texts, not just making calls. There is a very simple technological solution to this - disable screens on phones in motion faster than xmph - but people are violently against this minor inconvenience for passengers and mass transport commuters for the same reason drivers can't put their phone down, so this problem will likely continue to get worse, especially as the younger generation becomes drivers.
- ejb999 3y ago
  I am more or less in favor of this - but how do you solve for the problem that not everyone in the car is actually driving and may not want to be prevented from using their phone when riding as a passenger? If we can solve that one, it sounds like a no-brainer to me.
  - Amezarak 3y ago
    I don't think you can in an intelligent way. One simple solution would be to only disable the screen if the phone is connected to car Bluetooth - but this would just result in most phone addicts not connecting their phone to the car. That's why people are against it - the idea of passengers returning to the pre-smartphone era while traveling seems to be considered by most people totally outrageous and and unacceptable price to pay for lowering the accident rate, which has climbed almost solely to due smartphones.
    - bluefirebrand 3y ago
      > most people totally outrageous and and unacceptable What's totally outrageous and unacceptable is the idea that my phone can tell me when I'm allowed to use it or not, based on arbitrary rules set up by tech clowns who are not in my current situation and do not know why I might need it. It's frankly asinine to suggest I should not be able to look up a map of a city while riding a bus because someone else might be texting and driving. Most people would find this outrageous because it is.
    - 3y ago
polski-g 3y ago
Will CarPlay read Twitter to me?
Angostura 3y ago
As a Carplay user I plead guilty to having been distracted by it in the past while driving, though I think it generally does a good job of it.

It seems like CarPlay an Android Auto should work against this trend. Maybe cars with those features aren't entering the pool fast enough to overcome how much our attention on our phones is growing?

unnamed76ri 3y ago

Except when CarPlay(can’t speak to Android) doesn't work as intended, requiring you to still pick up your phone after you tried to accomplish something on CarPlay. I’m on the road about 3,000 miles/mo and CarPlay not functioning properly happens so often that I don’t even really notice anymore how often I have to pick up my phone.

prmoustache 3y ago
The correct thing to do in that case is to stop before picking up your phone and if it happens to much stop using it altogether and switch to a more reliable system.
- sokoloff 3y ago
  And not driving at all for the entire day if you slept poorly the night before. And pulling over into a parking lot before attending to your toddler’s question. Follow at a safe distance. Slow down in rain. Completely stop at stop signs. Strictly follow speed limits in residential areas. And a thousand other things that unreliable humans aren’t going to do 100% of the time, but if done would improve safety.
- unnamed76ri 3y ago
  What system is available for iPhone that is more reliable than CarPlay?

prmoustache 3y ago

Are you pretending people can't be distracted by choosing which song on spotify they want on android auto or car play? distracted != tapping on your phone Having a handless call in your car arguing about what to buy at groceries in your return trip from work with your significant other can be a dangerous distraction. Sure your eyes may be steered towards the road but your focus might be somewhere else and make you miss important stuff. Or telling the kids at the back to shut up and stop fighting. I wish people would be more aware of that and wouldn't think they can just drive their car as if it was an extension to their living room.

neallindsay 3y ago
No, of course you can be distracted operating the infotainment systems in your car, but directly manipulating your phone is much worse.

bouncing 3y ago

I could see people still being distracted scrolling through podcasts.

P_I_Staker 3y ago
And for some reason voice commands for podcasts have never been figured out. "Play a different episode" "Sorry, I have no idea how to do that" Them: Be scared. AI is really smart and is going to take your job. In fairness, I think there's reasons they're intentionally making it different to select what you want to play... but WTF is up with that, too.
- bouncing 3y ago
  My favorite is, some time around last summer, whenever I told Google to play the latest episode of Wait Wait Don’t Tell Me, it invariably plays some random unrelated (not even a similar name) music on Spotify.
  - tzs 3y ago
    I have no idea if this would work with Google, but I've noticed with Alexa it seems less likely to play a song when I ask for a non-song if I tell it to "listen" to the non-song rather than to "play" the non-song.
JKCalhoun 3y ago
As the user replying to you said, there are voice commands. But I get what you are saying — not everyone knows about or trusts the fidelity of the voice software. I wonder though if Apple and Android could remove non-voice functionality from their platforms thereby forcing users to use voice to navigate certain features like song selection. Or perhaps changing songs mechanically can only be done when the velocity of the vehicle is zero. I suspect people will be pissed off about those changes, but I think if I were CEO and had the authority, I would sleep better at night knowing I am doing everything to try to curtail pedestrian deaths because of my product.

Amezarak 3y ago

People are making snaps (I see ZILLIONS of stories made by car drivers), scrolling through TikTok, watching YouTube, sending texts, not just making calls. There is a very simple technological solution to this - disable screens on phones in motion faster than xmph - but people are violently against this minor inconvenience for passengers and mass transport commuters for the same reason drivers can't put their phone down, so this problem will likely continue to get worse, especially as the younger generation becomes drivers.

ejb999 3y ago
I am more or less in favor of this - but how do you solve for the problem that not everyone in the car is actually driving and may not want to be prevented from using their phone when riding as a passenger? If we can solve that one, it sounds like a no-brainer to me.
- Amezarak 3y ago
  I don't think you can in an intelligent way. One simple solution would be to only disable the screen if the phone is connected to car Bluetooth - but this would just result in most phone addicts not connecting their phone to the car. That's why people are against it - the idea of passengers returning to the pre-smartphone era while traveling seems to be considered by most people totally outrageous and and unacceptable price to pay for lowering the accident rate, which has climbed almost solely to due smartphones.
  - bluefirebrand 3y ago
    > most people totally outrageous and and unacceptable What's totally outrageous and unacceptable is the idea that my phone can tell me when I'm allowed to use it or not, based on arbitrary rules set up by tech clowns who are not in my current situation and do not know why I might need it. It's frankly asinine to suggest I should not be able to look up a map of a city while riding a bus because someone else might be texting and driving. Most people would find this outrageous because it is.
  - 3y ago

polski-g 3y ago

Will CarPlay read Twitter to me?

Angostura 3y ago

As a Carplay user I plead guilty to having been distracted by it in the past while driving, though I think it generally does a good job of it.