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I wonder where the line in the sand exists for what people feel is “okay” tracking and “not okay” tracking. Here it seems to be that almost universally, the stu

by nusl 3y ago

I wonder where the line in the sand exists for what people feel is “okay” tracking and “not okay” tracking. Here it seems to be that almost universally, the students dislike the facial recognition. Many folks I’ve spoken to otherwise don’t care about being tracked online. I suppose people are more sensitive to being tracked when it transitions into the real world and becomes more “real.”

giarc 3y ago
I don't mind being targeted online since it changes the ads I see from "Acai berry smoothies" to "beach vacations". Something I am not interested in, to something I am interested in (due to browsing history). That makes my experience better and I understand the trade off while using a free product (Google Maps, Facebook etc etc). However, the difference in this case is that the vending company (or someone along the chain) is using it to serve demographic ads to the customer of the vending machine. I still have to pay for the product and it's not changing non targeted ads to targeted ads (there were no ads before). I'm sure they aren't passing along some of the ad revenue to me since there's no competition (I'm sure all vending machines in the area are owned by the same company). So this is just a source of extra revenue for the company and serves no purpose to the user.
- nusl 3y ago
  All right. I try my best to keep my adverts as random as possible(if they appear at all), since somehow it feels like I'm being passively influenced by viewing the same sort of adverts suggesting I buy stuff repeatedly. The way they're sticking ads on everything with or without tracking is pretty annoying. I hope they lose money with the tech they had to dev and install vs ad returns.
- mixmastamyk 3y ago
  Interesting. Instead I block most ads (the most unethical ones, if I can discern that), problem solved.
KMnO4 3y ago
There’s an implied consent. I know that creating a Gmail account means that Google has access to all my emails. By using Gmail, I’m relatively aware that they’re building an ad profile on me, and I implicitly consent to that. But if I found out they’re collecting the bloodwork pdfs my doctor sends and selling them to insurance companies, that would be objectively beyond any reasonable consent. If you’re selling me M&Ms, I have a very very low tolerance for what I consider appropriate data collection.
- nusl 3y ago
  You know, though I am not sure of how well-known it is outside of tech circles. I agree with the second point. Facial recognition for demographic stats seems kinda reasonable if it's anonymised properly, but people don't like their photo being taken without knowledge of it.

by nusl 3y ago

giarc 3y ago

I don't mind being targeted online since it changes the ads I see from "Acai berry smoothies" to "beach vacations". Something I am not interested in, to something I am interested in (due to browsing history). That makes my experience better and I understand the trade off while using a free product (Google Maps, Facebook etc etc). However, the difference in this case is that the vending company (or someone along the chain) is using it to serve demographic ads to the customer of the vending machine. I still have to pay for the product and it's not changing non targeted ads to targeted ads (there were no ads before). I'm sure they aren't passing along some of the ad revenue to me since there's no competition (I'm sure all vending machines in the area are owned by the same company). So this is just a source of extra revenue for the company and serves no purpose to the user.

nusl 3y ago
All right. I try my best to keep my adverts as random as possible(if they appear at all), since somehow it feels like I'm being passively influenced by viewing the same sort of adverts suggesting I buy stuff repeatedly. The way they're sticking ads on everything with or without tracking is pretty annoying. I hope they lose money with the tech they had to dev and install vs ad returns.
mixmastamyk 3y ago
Interesting. Instead I block most ads (the most unethical ones, if I can discern that), problem solved.

KMnO4 3y ago

There’s an implied consent. I know that creating a Gmail account means that Google has access to all my emails. By using Gmail, I’m relatively aware that they’re building an ad profile on me, and I implicitly consent to that. But if I found out they’re collecting the bloodwork pdfs my doctor sends and selling them to insurance companies, that would be objectively beyond any reasonable consent. If you’re selling me M&Ms, I have a very very low tolerance for what I consider appropriate data collection.

nusl 3y ago
You know, though I am not sure of how well-known it is outside of tech circles. I agree with the second point. Facial recognition for demographic stats seems kinda reasonable if it's anonymised properly, but people don't like their photo being taken without knowledge of it.