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Don't these AI detectors also heavily penalize people whose native tongue is not English?

by Ezhik 3y ago

londons_explore 3y ago
It is pretty hard to make most AI systems talk broken English with bad grammar. That means if an essay is submitted with that grammar it's probably real
- lupire 3y ago
  That's the converse of PP's comment.
- scarmig 3y ago
  > Generate a three sentence comment saying it's easy to use LLMs to write a comment in broken English. Use a style and diction suggesting the author is an English second language learner from subcontinental Asia. Using LLMs for making comment in broken English is very easy thing. It help much because you can type and it give back what you need, but with simple English. Very good tool for who not first language English. (I'd give it a 3/10. It manages the broken English, but its errors don't really represent the kind of broken English requested.)
  - rany_ 3y ago
    > Using LLMs for making comment in broken English is very easy thing. It help much because you can type and it give back what you need, but with simple English. Very good tool for who not first language English. Well, it does pass in the sense that I would never guess that this was AI generated.
- joseda-hg 3y ago
  The problem is not necesarily broken english, but English that you actively learn (As opposed to passively absorb it being a native) ESL speakers tend to be a lot stiffer and structured with the way they create their sentences Native speakers usually make subtle "mistakes"*, or even mess with grammar intentionally, while ESL speakers can and do learn to do this, there's a weird line of "Does this make sense to other people without my context" that does create a difference in how often you do it This is best exemplified by the trope of "Sorry for my broken english", followed by some of the most terse prose you have ever read *Is it a mistake if it's widely used? Or even done intentionally?

Don't these AI detectors also heavily penalize people whose native tongue is not English?

by Ezhik 3y ago

Don't these AI detectors also heavily penalize people whose native tongue is not English?

It is pretty hard to make most AI systems talk broken English with bad grammar. That means if an essay is submitted with that grammar it's probably real

lupire 3y ago
That's the converse of PP's comment.
scarmig 3y ago
> Generate a three sentence comment saying it's easy to use LLMs to write a comment in broken English. Use a style and diction suggesting the author is an English second language learner from subcontinental Asia. Using LLMs for making comment in broken English is very easy thing. It help much because you can type and it give back what you need, but with simple English. Very good tool for who not first language English. (I'd give it a 3/10. It manages the broken English, but its errors don't really represent the kind of broken English requested.)
- rany_ 3y ago
  > Using LLMs for making comment in broken English is very easy thing. It help much because you can type and it give back what you need, but with simple English. Very good tool for who not first language English. Well, it does pass in the sense that I would never guess that this was AI generated.
joseda-hg 3y ago
The problem is not necesarily broken english, but English that you actively learn (As opposed to passively absorb it being a native) ESL speakers tend to be a lot stiffer and structured with the way they create their sentences Native speakers usually make subtle "mistakes"*, or even mess with grammar intentionally, while ESL speakers can and do learn to do this, there's a weird line of "Does this make sense to other people without my context" that does create a difference in how often you do it This is best exemplified by the trope of "Sorry for my broken english", followed by some of the most terse prose you have ever read *Is it a mistake if it's widely used? Or even done intentionally?