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That was the problem with Twitter/X. It appears that Elon's tweaking has caused the service to switch from left-leaning to right-leaning. https://www.pewresear

That was the problem with Twitter/X. It appears that Elon's tweaking has caused the service to switch from left-leaning to right-leaning. https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2023/05/01/after-musks-takeover-big-shifts-in-how-republican-and-democratic-twitter-users-view-the-platform/ https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2023/05/01/after-mus...

packetlost 3y ago
That study is based on user sentiment/survey, so I wouldn't really put any stock in to be completely honest. The only thing this study tells me is there was a change relative to some baseline, not that there was any sort of absolute lean.
- hathawsh 3y ago
  Fair enough. Personally, I like to watch both sides, and it has been interesting to see conservatives becoming more favorable toward Twitter/X. If I were working on a social network (like Bluesky, the topic of this discussion), I would be watching Twitter/X closely right now to try to understand the effects that certain tweaks (such as moderation policy) may have.
  - packetlost 3y ago
    Agreed! My own gut feeling is that it leaned pretty heavily left and it's now closer to center than ever, and people are noticing the delta. Every time I open BlueSky it's like 50% Liberal rage-bait and like 40% people posting mostly about their sexual and gender identities.
    - djur 3y ago
      The posts you see on Bluesky by default are the posts made by people you follow. There are other options to select whichever feeds you prefer. If you're seeing a lot of that content, it's because you're following people who post a lot of that stuff.
      - packetlost 3y ago
        This is not on my following feed, it's on discover.
    - packetlost 3y ago
      I'd like to add, that I don't have a problem with people doing this: people should be able to express themselves however they want. I'm just not particularly interested in that type of content.
  - bigstrat2003 3y ago
    To be honest, I think Twitter (and other similar sites) are a huge negative for society no matter who dominates the echo chamber. Training everyone to dump 140-char hot takes as a dominant form of "discourse" has been a genuine evil for the world. Twitter delenda est.
    - robin_reala 3y ago
      280 since 2017.
- adra 3y ago
  There's no absolute lean at all it's all subjective, and sadly multidimensional which is hard for normal people to appreciate, so sure. Soooo.. Right and left are objective bars in the sand and my options are perfectly formed and happen to be exactly just on the correct side of all issues.
  - packetlost 3y ago
    > There's no absolute lean at all it's all subjective, and sadly multidimensional which is hard for normal people to appreciate, so sure. I guess "absolute" is the wrong word. Lean isn't really a measurable thing, which is sorta my point. The GP claimed that there was, my claim was that all we have are people's feelings, and people don't feel in absolute terms, they just notice when there's a change so the linked data on peoples feelings probably doesn't support the claim.
- Repulsion9513 3y ago
  Whereas the GP comment was based on... an anecdote from a celebrity. Definitely more trustworthy. Yep.
babypuncher 3y ago
Pretty hard right-leaning too. They regularly ban left-leaning journalists who are critical of Musk, while letting actual neo-Nazis roam free. They over-corrected to an extreme degree. I still can't believe they banned Alexei Navalny's wife after Putin murdered him. And I find it sickening that there are people here who defend that shit.

packetlost 3y ago

That study is based on user sentiment/survey, so I wouldn't really put any stock in to be completely honest. The only thing this study tells me is there was a change relative to some baseline, not that there was any sort of absolute lean.

hathawsh 3y ago
Fair enough. Personally, I like to watch both sides, and it has been interesting to see conservatives becoming more favorable toward Twitter/X. If I were working on a social network (like Bluesky, the topic of this discussion), I would be watching Twitter/X closely right now to try to understand the effects that certain tweaks (such as moderation policy) may have.
- packetlost 3y ago
  Agreed! My own gut feeling is that it leaned pretty heavily left and it's now closer to center than ever, and people are noticing the delta. Every time I open BlueSky it's like 50% Liberal rage-bait and like 40% people posting mostly about their sexual and gender identities.
  - djur 3y ago
    The posts you see on Bluesky by default are the posts made by people you follow. There are other options to select whichever feeds you prefer. If you're seeing a lot of that content, it's because you're following people who post a lot of that stuff.
    - packetlost 3y ago
      This is not on my following feed, it's on discover.
  - packetlost 3y ago
    I'd like to add, that I don't have a problem with people doing this: people should be able to express themselves however they want. I'm just not particularly interested in that type of content.
- bigstrat2003 3y ago
  To be honest, I think Twitter (and other similar sites) are a huge negative for society no matter who dominates the echo chamber. Training everyone to dump 140-char hot takes as a dominant form of "discourse" has been a genuine evil for the world. Twitter delenda est.
  - robin_reala 3y ago
    280 since 2017.
adra 3y ago
There's no absolute lean at all it's all subjective, and sadly multidimensional which is hard for normal people to appreciate, so sure. Soooo.. Right and left are objective bars in the sand and my options are perfectly formed and happen to be exactly just on the correct side of all issues.
- packetlost 3y ago
  > There's no absolute lean at all it's all subjective, and sadly multidimensional which is hard for normal people to appreciate, so sure. I guess "absolute" is the wrong word. Lean isn't really a measurable thing, which is sorta my point. The GP claimed that there was, my claim was that all we have are people's feelings, and people don't feel in absolute terms, they just notice when there's a change so the linked data on peoples feelings probably doesn't support the claim.
Repulsion9513 3y ago
Whereas the GP comment was based on... an anecdote from a celebrity. Definitely more trustworthy. Yep.

babypuncher 3y ago

Pretty hard right-leaning too. They regularly ban left-leaning journalists who are critical of Musk, while letting actual neo-Nazis roam free. They over-corrected to an extreme degree. I still can't believe they banned Alexei Navalny's wife after Putin murdered him. And I find it sickening that there are people here who defend that shit.