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>You need to join Discord to access the feature Seriously?! Will this trend ever dies?! I don’t want to use discord, can’t they just make a simple request for

>You need to join Discord to access the feature Seriously?! Will this trend ever dies?! I don’t want to use discord, can’t they just make a simple request form? Whenever I see “join our discord” for anything in any service I just never use that service, keep it as an option for whoever wants to hangout there just don’t make it the “only” channel of communication!

steveklabnik 3y ago
Is that a direct quote? I don't see it anywhere. What I do see is > Because the PDS distribution is not totally settled, we want to have a line of communication with PDS admins in the network, so we’re asking any developer that plans to run a PDS to join the PDS Admins Discord. https://docs.bsky.app/blog/self-host-federation https://docs.bsky.app/blog/self-host-federation This is much more reasonable than an actual gate on the feature.
- tamimio 3y ago
  Not a direct quote. But Discord is the only means of communication.
jakebsky 3y ago
This is just for a brief period during polishing/debugging since this is the first time third-party PDS hosts have been added to the network. The goal is just to help PDS operators join the network and make sure that if there's a problem we have a channel of communication open.
- tamimio 3y ago
  Bluesky has a Matrix dev group (afaik it’s an official one) why not use that too in addition to Discord (or other comms channels)?
  - Arathorn 3y ago
    Unfortunately they declared they didn't have moderation bandwidth to maintain it as an official channel, and then apparently moved to Discord :(
    - tamimio 3y ago
      Welp, that’s unfortunate indeed. P.S. Fantastic project (Matrix/Element)!
    - jeroenhd 3y ago
      I'm a little confused by this, how did switching to Discord reduce the load on their moderators?
      - Arathorn 3y ago
        i assume it didn’t. unfortunately, decentralised web projects don’t always do that well at having each others’ backs. (Matrix maintains a presence on Bluesky tho: https://bsky.app/profile/matrix.org https://bsky.app/profile/matrix.org)
      - charcircuit 3y ago
        Discord has better moderation tools than matrix
djbusby 3y ago
Maybe some kind of federated option?
emllnd 3y ago
What would you like to see instead for groupchat-style quick low-threshold discussion?
- wmf 3y ago
  Maybe Zulip.

steveklabnik 3y ago

Is that a direct quote? I don't see it anywhere. What I do see is > Because the PDS distribution is not totally settled, we want to have a line of communication with PDS admins in the network, so we’re asking any developer that plans to run a PDS to join the PDS Admins Discord. https://docs.bsky.app/blog/self-host-federation https://docs.bsky.app/blog/self-host-federation This is much more reasonable than an actual gate on the feature.

tamimio 3y ago
Not a direct quote. But Discord is the only means of communication.

jakebsky 3y ago

This is just for a brief period during polishing/debugging since this is the first time third-party PDS hosts have been added to the network. The goal is just to help PDS operators join the network and make sure that if there's a problem we have a channel of communication open.

tamimio 3y ago
Bluesky has a Matrix dev group (afaik it’s an official one) why not use that too in addition to Discord (or other comms channels)?
- Arathorn 3y ago
  Unfortunately they declared they didn't have moderation bandwidth to maintain it as an official channel, and then apparently moved to Discord :(
  - tamimio 3y ago
    Welp, that’s unfortunate indeed. P.S. Fantastic project (Matrix/Element)!
  - jeroenhd 3y ago
    I'm a little confused by this, how did switching to Discord reduce the load on their moderators?
    - Arathorn 3y ago
      i assume it didn’t. unfortunately, decentralised web projects don’t always do that well at having each others’ backs. (Matrix maintains a presence on Bluesky tho: https://bsky.app/profile/matrix.org https://bsky.app/profile/matrix.org)
    - charcircuit 3y ago
      Discord has better moderation tools than matrix

djbusby 3y ago

Maybe some kind of federated option?

emllnd 3y ago

What would you like to see instead for groupchat-style quick low-threshold discussion?

wmf 3y ago
Maybe Zulip.