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Social media has been the only open venue for young people for a while now, where the door to success is not closed and welded shut by old folks. Sure, all thos

Social media has been the only open venue for young people for a while now, where the door to success is not closed and welded shut by old folks. Sure, all those likes and followers will not give them any monetary benefit to speak of, but neither does working or having a career. If it was conceivable to raise in the ranks and get good compensation and respect by hard and diligent work, young people would be very interested. But that's not been the case for a long time. Young people will always flock to where they can succeed on their own merits, wether that was being a soldier, sailing in the merchant fleet, digging for gold, acting, business, technology, etc.

bodiekane 3y ago
The average pay for a nurse in California is $133,000. A dentist is $172k. Physical therapist $100k. MDs $230k. Numerous other healthcare career paths where the doors to success are wide open to young people and where success is dictated by their "hard and diligent work". If healthcare isn't their interest, Biglaw starting salaries for first year associates are $225k and go up rapidly. Other areas of law draw salaries from $150k to millions. Obviously tech compensation is discussed here frequently, with high salaries possible for dev work as well as design, management, sales, support. Finance and business consulting still pull in massive classes of entry level employees every year, with high starting salaries and higher comp for those who stay. Fossil fuel extraction is full of high paid jobs, whether engineers and scientists designing equipment or field workers getting their hands dirty. Social media is a tiny, tiny opportunity compared to other parts of the economy. For every influencer making $100k, there will be tens of thousands of people making six figures in a different domain.
- carlosjobim 3y ago
  I don't know anything about California, but if those salaries are true and achievable within reasonable effort, why wouldn't young people flock from the entire nation to work in healthcare? Maybe there's some limiting factor? Biglaw and finance consulting I doubt is open for everybody to work in, unless your parents paid for a prestigious college. The door is pretty well welded shut, as far as I know. Social media is on the other hand free to start building your audience. Tech is the outlier, I agree with you on that one. If you have the talent you can make it in tech still as a young person only on talent and hard work. Social media is such a tiny opportunity monetarily that it doesn't even count. It's not the money making young people flock to social media – because there is almost no money there – it is the chance of being somebody, having people listening to you and getting some respect as a person. Rather than being treated as a piece of shit by your boss for no reason. Not in the US, but the (hard working) engineers and dentists that I personally know all needed financial help from parents to be able to afford their very humble dwellings. Every financially successful person I know either inherited real estate or bought real estate before most of humans were born. Some of them also work hard, but that doesn't influence their financials much. I'd like to ask what is the average pay for a non-working homeowner in California? How much can they expect to earn tax free per year from their real estate increasing in value, as compared to the hard working and highly taxed nurse earning from labour?
iteratethis 3y ago
Guess where your fatalism was learned? Social media. It's absurd to claim that working or having a career delivers no monetary benefits.
- carlosjobim 3y ago
  No monetary benefit to speak of for most of today's youth. I'm not a fatalist and i believe every person creates her own destiny. But let's be real also, the cards are heavily stacked against the youth for the great disadvantage of all of us. The so called "economy" is loosing immeasurable amounts of productivity just because the people in charge (both on a macro and micro level) have decided that they need to hold back young people. Just compare the level of taxation on labour with the taxes on real estate or imports/exports.

bodiekane 3y ago

The average pay for a nurse in California is $133,000. A dentist is $172k. Physical therapist $100k. MDs $230k. Numerous other healthcare career paths where the doors to success are wide open to young people and where success is dictated by their "hard and diligent work". If healthcare isn't their interest, Biglaw starting salaries for first year associates are $225k and go up rapidly. Other areas of law draw salaries from $150k to millions. Obviously tech compensation is discussed here frequently, with high salaries possible for dev work as well as design, management, sales, support. Finance and business consulting still pull in massive classes of entry level employees every year, with high starting salaries and higher comp for those who stay. Fossil fuel extraction is full of high paid jobs, whether engineers and scientists designing equipment or field workers getting their hands dirty. Social media is a tiny, tiny opportunity compared to other parts of the economy. For every influencer making $100k, there will be tens of thousands of people making six figures in a different domain.

carlosjobim 3y ago
I don't know anything about California, but if those salaries are true and achievable within reasonable effort, why wouldn't young people flock from the entire nation to work in healthcare? Maybe there's some limiting factor? Biglaw and finance consulting I doubt is open for everybody to work in, unless your parents paid for a prestigious college. The door is pretty well welded shut, as far as I know. Social media is on the other hand free to start building your audience. Tech is the outlier, I agree with you on that one. If you have the talent you can make it in tech still as a young person only on talent and hard work. Social media is such a tiny opportunity monetarily that it doesn't even count. It's not the money making young people flock to social media – because there is almost no money there – it is the chance of being somebody, having people listening to you and getting some respect as a person. Rather than being treated as a piece of shit by your boss for no reason. Not in the US, but the (hard working) engineers and dentists that I personally know all needed financial help from parents to be able to afford their very humble dwellings. Every financially successful person I know either inherited real estate or bought real estate before most of humans were born. Some of them also work hard, but that doesn't influence their financials much. I'd like to ask what is the average pay for a non-working homeowner in California? How much can they expect to earn tax free per year from their real estate increasing in value, as compared to the hard working and highly taxed nurse earning from labour?

iteratethis 3y ago

Guess where your fatalism was learned? Social media. It's absurd to claim that working or having a career delivers no monetary benefits.

carlosjobim 3y ago
No monetary benefit to speak of for most of today's youth. I'm not a fatalist and i believe every person creates her own destiny. But let's be real also, the cards are heavily stacked against the youth for the great disadvantage of all of us. The so called "economy" is loosing immeasurable amounts of productivity just because the people in charge (both on a macro and micro level) have decided that they need to hold back young people. Just compare the level of taxation on labour with the taxes on real estate or imports/exports.