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I've seen the opposite. I drastically reduced my smartphone and online time a couple years before Covid, but completely ditched my phone at the end of 2019. I

I've seen the opposite. I drastically reduced my smartphone and online time a couple years before Covid, but completely ditched my phone at the end of 2019. It took a few years before I met anyone with my level of dedication, but now I meet them every few months. Most are tech or ex-tech employees, but some are just closer to retirement.

mnky9800n 3y ago
I have to many two factor authentications that for some reason only use Google or Microsoft apps. Also there's bankid but I guess that still can use a key fob for the time being. Otherwise I would be happy to get rid of my phone.
- webdoodle 3y ago
  Admittedly, several services that require 2fa phone authentication had to be ditched as well. It was a hard decision, and took months of fighting before I finally just said, "If you require a phone, I don't require you." The choice was hard, but long-term I have much better life. FYI - Slowly I've seen keyfobs with 1 time code generators replace phones as a 2fa system. For instance, etrade and ebay use them now. https://us.etrade.com/security-center/securityid#tab_1 https://us.etrade.com/security-center/securityid#tab_1
stevage 3y ago
You literally have no phone? Amazing. I'm full of questions, like how do you socialise with people who expect to be able to change plans at the last minute?
- webdoodle 3y ago
  Socializing isn't high on my priority list, and most of it is planned a week ahead of time. I try to check my email once a day, but that's not always an option. If they don't show, I don't give them grief, and don't sweat it. My commitment to being phone free means I have to accept that some people just won't go to the extra effort it takes to keep in touch. The folks that really burn my biscuits are the ones that are incredulous I'm not on Facebook. If after telling them exactly why they shouldn't be on Facebook (Cambridge Analytica and the Trump/Johnson psyops), if they still don't get it, I generally avoid them.

mnky9800n 3y ago

I have to many two factor authentications that for some reason only use Google or Microsoft apps. Also there's bankid but I guess that still can use a key fob for the time being. Otherwise I would be happy to get rid of my phone.

webdoodle 3y ago
Admittedly, several services that require 2fa phone authentication had to be ditched as well. It was a hard decision, and took months of fighting before I finally just said, "If you require a phone, I don't require you." The choice was hard, but long-term I have much better life. FYI - Slowly I've seen keyfobs with 1 time code generators replace phones as a 2fa system. For instance, etrade and ebay use them now. https://us.etrade.com/security-center/securityid#tab_1 https://us.etrade.com/security-center/securityid#tab_1

stevage 3y ago

You literally have no phone? Amazing. I'm full of questions, like how do you socialise with people who expect to be able to change plans at the last minute?

webdoodle 3y ago
Socializing isn't high on my priority list, and most of it is planned a week ahead of time. I try to check my email once a day, but that's not always an option. If they don't show, I don't give them grief, and don't sweat it. My commitment to being phone free means I have to accept that some people just won't go to the extra effort it takes to keep in touch. The folks that really burn my biscuits are the ones that are incredulous I'm not on Facebook. If after telling them exactly why they shouldn't be on Facebook (Cambridge Analytica and the Trump/Johnson psyops), if they still don't get it, I generally avoid them.