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Related: MIT's detailed blog post about why they reinstated the SAT/ACT requirement (2 years ago): https://mitadmissions.org/blogs/entry/we-are-reinstating-our

by ubj 3y ago

Related: MIT's detailed blog post about why they reinstated the SAT/ACT requirement (2 years ago): https://mitadmissions.org/blogs/entry/we-are-reinstating-our-sat-act-requirement-for-future-admissions-cycles/ https://mitadmissions.org/blogs/entry/we-are-reinstating-our... Some quotes from the MIT blog post: > [S]tandardized tests also help us identify academically prepared, socioeconomically disadvantaged students who could not otherwise demonstrate readiness because they do not attend schools that offer advanced coursework, cannot afford expensive enrichment opportunities, cannot expect lengthy letters of recommendation from their overburdened teachers, or are otherwise hampered by educational inequalities. > [O]ur findings directionally align with a major study conducted by the University of California’s Standardized Testing Task Force, which found that including SAT/ACT scores predicted undergraduate performance better than grades alone, and also helped admissions officers identify well-prepared students from less-advantaged backgrounds.

15457345234 3y ago
Sanity and normality is returning, slowly. It's normal to test children at the end of the educational process. No, it isn't racist/bigoted/discriminatory. No, minorities aren't too stupid to recognise the test is important. Implying that _is_ racist. No, it isn't any of the other things it was claimed to be. No, it isn't perfect. Yes, it's necessary to ensure that schools are actually teaching and that schools which aren't actually teaching can be fixed. Really the entire US educational system appears to have come under the influence recently of some people with very strange ideas.
otoburb 3y ago
As a (to me, puzzling) counterpoint, Caltech ran a similar internal analysis in 2020 and again in 2022 and extended their moratorium on standardized test scores for first-year admissions out to 2025.[1] [1] https://www.admissions.caltech.edu/apply/first-year-applicants/standardized-tests https://www.admissions.caltech.edu/apply/first-year-applican...
- swatcoder 3y ago
  Caltech is a much smaller and more narrowly focused school with a smaller applicant pool that self-selects even more than MIT's. The needs and workflows of their admission process are different and peculiar and shouldn't be taken as a strong signal of what makes sense elsewhere.

by ubj 3y ago

15457345234 3y ago

Sanity and normality is returning, slowly. It's normal to test children at the end of the educational process. No, it isn't racist/bigoted/discriminatory. No, minorities aren't too stupid to recognise the test is important. Implying that _is_ racist. No, it isn't any of the other things it was claimed to be. No, it isn't perfect. Yes, it's necessary to ensure that schools are actually teaching and that schools which aren't actually teaching can be fixed. Really the entire US educational system appears to have come under the influence recently of some people with very strange ideas.

otoburb 3y ago

As a (to me, puzzling) counterpoint, Caltech ran a similar internal analysis in 2020 and again in 2022 and extended their moratorium on standardized test scores for first-year admissions out to 2025.[1] [1] https://www.admissions.caltech.edu/apply/first-year-applicants/standardized-tests https://www.admissions.caltech.edu/apply/first-year-applican...

swatcoder 3y ago
Caltech is a much smaller and more narrowly focused school with a smaller applicant pool that self-selects even more than MIT's. The needs and workflows of their admission process are different and peculiar and shouldn't be taken as a strong signal of what makes sense elsewhere.