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There are some horror stories coming out of certain US states, mostly surrounding woman's reproductive rights. There are crackdowns on old ways of doing things

There are some horror stories coming out of certain US states, mostly surrounding woman's reproductive rights. There are crackdowns on old ways of doing things such as driving your daughter to another state in order to have an abortion. That can now be a very serious felony for all involved. Many people with kids, and many young women, are starting to actively avoid moving to these states. This is growing problem for military recruiters. Try telling a 17yo highschool girl that if she joins the army at 18 she may be posted to some random state where she may not have access to various forms of reproductive healthcare, where perhaps even contraception may soon be disallowed. Or tell a gay kid that he might be moved to a state where the return of sodomy laws is openly discussed in the legislature. Heck no. Even if the new laws are not as bad as reported, they are a significant factor for many young people.

me_me_me 3y ago
It is chilling that this reads like a dystopian novel prompt. And on the other side of US men are women, women are men, and nobody is anything and everything at the same time. What a time to be alive.
- sandworm101 3y ago
  Dystopian but also something unique to the US. Each state is effectively a different country with sometimes radically different laws. But people are free to move about and select which set of laws they want to live under, at least so long as they are not pregnant. New parents may move to state A so their daughter can have reproducer freedom. Or a billionaire may move to state B so he can more easily sell stocks without being taxed. No other country organizes itself around such a pick-your-laws scheme.
  - G3rn0ti 3y ago
    Switzerland did this even before the US. The US model is basically a copy of how Switzerland has been working (probably even more radically so with a much weaker federal government). But the emotional policies surrounding abortion in the US do not stem from their federal organization but rather roots in rather strong religious sentiments still more prevalent in the US than probably many other western countries. In Switzerland abortion has been formally legal since about 2001.
silent_cal 3y ago
I'd say killing your daughter's child is a lot more horrific than not doing it.

me_me_me 3y ago

It is chilling that this reads like a dystopian novel prompt. And on the other side of US men are women, women are men, and nobody is anything and everything at the same time. What a time to be alive.

sandworm101 3y ago
Dystopian but also something unique to the US. Each state is effectively a different country with sometimes radically different laws. But people are free to move about and select which set of laws they want to live under, at least so long as they are not pregnant. New parents may move to state A so their daughter can have reproducer freedom. Or a billionaire may move to state B so he can more easily sell stocks without being taxed. No other country organizes itself around such a pick-your-laws scheme.
- G3rn0ti 3y ago
  Switzerland did this even before the US. The US model is basically a copy of how Switzerland has been working (probably even more radically so with a much weaker federal government). But the emotional policies surrounding abortion in the US do not stem from their federal organization but rather roots in rather strong religious sentiments still more prevalent in the US than probably many other western countries. In Switzerland abortion has been formally legal since about 2001.

silent_cal 3y ago

I'd say killing your daughter's child is a lot more horrific than not doing it.