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Why does google dislike white people? What does this have to do with corporate greed? (which you could always assume when a company does something bad)
by rosmax_1337 3y ago
Why does google dislike white people? What does this have to do with corporate greed? (which you could always assume when a company does something bad)
- mhuffman 3y ago>Why does google dislike white people? Because it is currently in fashion to do so. >What does this have to do with corporate greed? It has to do with a lot of things, but specifically greed-related the very fastest way to lose money or damage your brand is to offend someone that has access to large social reach. So better for them to err on the side of safety.
- electrondood 3y agoThis is a straw man. It's recognizing and mitigating systemic bias, where there is currently a massive bias for whiteness, maleness, heterosexuality, etc. Consider that 65% of the US population is not white and male, yet something like 85% of the leading characters in all media are... white and male. If you're going to argue that systemic bias does not exist, and that it's some kind of trendy passing fad to pretend that it does, you're not going to get very far before you're confronted with the statistical reality.
- orand 3y agoAnti-racism is racism. Systems to "mitigate systemic bias" are systemic bias, and explicitly so, which makes them far more evil.
- didntcheck 3y agoIt's not some passing fad. Companies and institutes have been very open and self-declaring about viewing "whiteness" as a bad thing and explicit about wanting to have fewer white people in desirable positions or depicted
- bequanna 3y ago> It's recognizing and mitigating systemic bias, where there is currently a massive bias for whiteness, maleness, heterosexuality, etc. Where is this “systemic bias” people keep crying about? I don’t see it in ads, in hiring policies, in college admission policies, etc. In fact, I see the opposite: the group you mentioned is vilified and artificially held back across the board because it is fashionable. Fighting racism with a different kind of racism makes absolutely no sense. The more we deviate from a meritocracy the more we all lose.
- datadrivenangel 3y agoGoogle dislikes getting bad PR. Modern western tech society will criticize (mostly correctly) a lack of diversity in basically any aspect of a company or technology. This often is expressed in shorthand as there being too many white cis men. Don't forget google's fancy doors didn't work as well for black people at once point. Lots of bad PR.
- rosmax_1337 3y agoWhy is a "lack of diversity" a problem? Do different races have different attributes which complement each other on a team?
- romanovcode 3y ago> Do different races have different attributes which complement each other on a team? Actually, no. In reality diversity is hindering progress since humans are not far from apes and really like inclusivity and tribalism. We sure do like to pretend it does tho.
- lupusreal 3y agoAmazon considers an ethnicly homogenous workforce as a unionization threat. Ethnic diversity is seen as reducing the risk of unionization because diverse workers have a harder time relating to each other. I think this partially explains why corporations are so keen on diversity. The other part is decision makers in the corporation being true believers in the virtue of diversity. These complement each other; the best people to drive cynically motivated diversity agendas are people who really do believe they're doing the right thing.
- fdsfdsafdsafds 3y agoBy that argument, developing countries aren't very diverse at all, which is why they aren't doing as well.
- tczMUFlmoNk 3y agoYep, people from different backgrounds bring different experiences and perspectives, which complement each other and make products more useful for more people. Race and gender are two characteristics that lead to pretty different lived experiences, so having team members who can represent those experiences matters.
- trotsky24 3y agoIt historically originated from pandering to the advertising industry, from AdWords/AdSense. Google's real end customers are advertisers. This industry is led by women and gay men, that view straight white males as the oppressors, it is anti-white male.
- BurningFrog 3y agoI think it's kinda the opposite of greed. Google is sitting on a machine that was built by earlier generations and generates about $1B/day without much effort. And that means they can instead put effort into things they're passionate about.
- hnburnsy 3y agoMaybe this explains some of it, this is a Google exec involved in AI... https://twitter.com/eyeslasho/status/1760650986425618509 https://twitter.com/eyeslasho/status/1760650986425618509
- caskstrength 3y agoFrom his linkedin: Senior Director of Product in Gemini, VP WeWork, "Advisor" VSCO, VP of advertising products in Pandora, Product Marketing Manager Google+, Business analyst JPMorgan Chase... Jesus, that fcking guy is literal definition of failing upwards and instead of hiding it he spends his days SJWing on Twitter? Wonder how its like working with him...
- hirvi74 3y ago> literal definition of failing upwards Fitting since that's been Google's MO for years now.
- ActionHank 3y agoThey've blindly over-compensated for a lack of diversity in training data by just tacking words like "diverse" onto the prompt when they think you're looking for an image of a person.
- VirusNewbie 3y agoThe funny thing is, as a white (mexican american) engineer at Google, it's not exactly rare when I'm the only white person in some larger meetings.
- givemeethekeys 3y agoWhy do so many white men continue to work at companies that dislike white men?