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Not available in the "old" UI? Guess this is the beginning of the end.

naitgacem 3y ago
You can switch between the old and new terminal in Settings/Preferences | Tools | Terminal | Enable New Terminal. I'm not what are you referring to?
- donatj 3y ago
  > The new terminal (Beta) is now in JetBrains IDEs and will be available in the new UI JetBrains IDEs are in a transition state right now where they have both a “New UI” that’s minimal and a cheap knock off of VSCode to lure the kiddos in, and the original “IDE-feeling” UI that’s arguably much better for actual work. A sort of approach like Reddit still having new and old years later. The wording implies the new terminal is only available in the new JetBrains UI and not the old UI
  - dijit 3y ago
    A more charitable take is that power-users are mostly hotkey users, so hiding the UI leaves more space for things that matter. That said (and with the understanding that I am, by nature, averse to changing my habits): I prefer the old UI by a long shot.
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    - metanonsense 3y ago
      I use IntelliJ for ~10 years now, and when I read that they have a new UI, I expected the worst. But, to be honest, I fell in love on first sight (at least with the compact mode).
      - naitgacem 3y ago
        Compact mode is a must for me as well. When __new UI__ released for Android Studio, I didn't enable until they later rolled out the so called compact mode.
  - nsonha 3y ago
    > “New UI” that’s minimal and a cheap knock off of VSCode Equating being minimal with being cheap sounds about as smart as equating IDE with its UI. IDE is about functionalities not how big/small buttons are or how many panels you can show off at once.
    - chuckadams 3y ago
      Hard disagree: an IDE is a UI that integrates (the "I" in IDE) various development tools such as an editor and compiler with a unifying interface. An editor that wasn't mostly equivalent to its interface would be, well, sed (even ed has a UI). Dog knows I'd love to have all my IDE tools available as CLI scripts, but I'd never do my day to day development that way. All that said, I like the new UI. The top bar with the project/task/branch switcher is just perfect for my workflow, even if the tasks UI could do with a little more attention.
Larrikin 3y ago
Honestly the new UI looks very different, but it takes about a 30 minute video tour and a 30 minute usage run to get completely used to it. I don't think it's necessarily better but it's also not worse. I use their IDE at work, so figured I should just adopt before I get behind with new features since I do find their IDEs to be better than anything else I've tried still.

You can switch between the old and new terminal in Settings/Preferences | Tools | Terminal | Enable New Terminal. I'm not what are you referring to?

donatj 3y ago
> The new terminal (Beta) is now in JetBrains IDEs and will be available in the new UI JetBrains IDEs are in a transition state right now where they have both a “New UI” that’s minimal and a cheap knock off of VSCode to lure the kiddos in, and the original “IDE-feeling” UI that’s arguably much better for actual work. A sort of approach like Reddit still having new and old years later. The wording implies the new terminal is only available in the new JetBrains UI and not the old UI
- dijit 3y ago
  A more charitable take is that power-users are mostly hotkey users, so hiding the UI leaves more space for things that matter. That said (and with the understanding that I am, by nature, averse to changing my habits): I prefer the old UI by a long shot.
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  - metanonsense 3y ago
    I use IntelliJ for ~10 years now, and when I read that they have a new UI, I expected the worst. But, to be honest, I fell in love on first sight (at least with the compact mode).
    - naitgacem 3y ago
      Compact mode is a must for me as well. When __new UI__ released for Android Studio, I didn't enable until they later rolled out the so called compact mode.
- nsonha 3y ago
  > “New UI” that’s minimal and a cheap knock off of VSCode Equating being minimal with being cheap sounds about as smart as equating IDE with its UI. IDE is about functionalities not how big/small buttons are or how many panels you can show off at once.
  - chuckadams 3y ago
    Hard disagree: an IDE is a UI that integrates (the "I" in IDE) various development tools such as an editor and compiler with a unifying interface. An editor that wasn't mostly equivalent to its interface would be, well, sed (even ed has a UI). Dog knows I'd love to have all my IDE tools available as CLI scripts, but I'd never do my day to day development that way. All that said, I like the new UI. The top bar with the project/task/branch switcher is just perfect for my workflow, even if the tasks UI could do with a little more attention.

Larrikin 3y ago

Honestly the new UI looks very different, but it takes about a 30 minute video tour and a 30 minute usage run to get completely used to it. I don't think it's necessarily better but it's also not worse. I use their IDE at work, so figured I should just adopt before I get behind with new features since I do find their IDEs to be better than anything else I've tried still.