6 ms·

It sounds like something went sideways with the embedding mapping. Either some kind of quantization, different rounding, or maybe just an older embedding.

JKCalhoun 3y ago
I wonder if we'll accidentally gain insight into schizophrenia or other human-neurological disorders from AI crashes/failures.
bbor 3y ago
In my limited experience this screams “applied a generated mask to the wrong data”. Like they scored tokens then applied the results to the wrong source or something. Obviously more an idle guess from first principles than the direct cause, tho
deathanatos 3y ago
The point isn't the specifics; the point is that this isn't a postmortem. A postmortem should be detailed enough for someone to understand the background, how the problem came to be, then what happened, and the walk-through what has been done such that it won't happen again. It takes … well at least a page. This is far too short to quality. This is more "ugh, here's a rough explanation, please go away now" territory. OpenAI isn't the first company to abuse the term this way, though. But it devalues the real PMs out there.
- jldugger 3y ago
  Sorry, not disagreeing, just offering speculation in lieu of the answers we don't have.
  - fieldcny 3y ago
    That’s not helping, that’s excusing OpenAIs behavior, which is not something anyone on hn should be doing. This is supposedly the greatest AI mankind has ever created, it goes down for a little while and we have zero information on why or how, that’s simply inexcusable If this is such a socially impacting technical change we should be ripping it to pieces to understand exactly how it works. Thats a) how we protect society from technical charlatans b) how you spawn a whole new world of magnificent innovations (see Linus building a truly free Unix like operating system for everyone to use). Failing to hold them to as high a bar is a another step down the path to a dystopian corporatists future…
    - krisoft 3y ago
      > it goes down for a little while and we have zero information on why or how We have more than zero information. They applied a change and it didn’t work on some set of their hardware so they reverted it. That is not much information but also not zero. > that’s simply inexcusable If your contractual SLAs were violated take it up with the billing department. > If this is such a socially impacting technical change we should be ripping it to pieces to understand exactly how it works. And people are doing that. Not by complaining when the corp are not sufficiently forthcomming but by implementing their own systems. That is how you have any chance of avoiding the dystopian corporatist future you mention.
- __loam 3y ago
  Would not be the first time "Open"AI abused words.
blueprint 3y ago
or a manic episode of a caged genius?

JKCalhoun 3y ago

I wonder if we'll accidentally gain insight into schizophrenia or other human-neurological disorders from AI crashes/failures.

bbor 3y ago

In my limited experience this screams “applied a generated mask to the wrong data”. Like they scored tokens then applied the results to the wrong source or something. Obviously more an idle guess from first principles than the direct cause, tho

deathanatos 3y ago

The point isn't the specifics; the point is that this isn't a postmortem. A postmortem should be detailed enough for someone to understand the background, how the problem came to be, then what happened, and the walk-through what has been done such that it won't happen again. It takes … well at least a page. This is far too short to quality. This is more "ugh, here's a rough explanation, please go away now" territory. OpenAI isn't the first company to abuse the term this way, though. But it devalues the real PMs out there.

jldugger 3y ago
Sorry, not disagreeing, just offering speculation in lieu of the answers we don't have.
- fieldcny 3y ago
  That’s not helping, that’s excusing OpenAIs behavior, which is not something anyone on hn should be doing. This is supposedly the greatest AI mankind has ever created, it goes down for a little while and we have zero information on why or how, that’s simply inexcusable If this is such a socially impacting technical change we should be ripping it to pieces to understand exactly how it works. Thats a) how we protect society from technical charlatans b) how you spawn a whole new world of magnificent innovations (see Linus building a truly free Unix like operating system for everyone to use). Failing to hold them to as high a bar is a another step down the path to a dystopian corporatists future…
  - krisoft 3y ago
    > it goes down for a little while and we have zero information on why or how We have more than zero information. They applied a change and it didn’t work on some set of their hardware so they reverted it. That is not much information but also not zero. > that’s simply inexcusable If your contractual SLAs were violated take it up with the billing department. > If this is such a socially impacting technical change we should be ripping it to pieces to understand exactly how it works. And people are doing that. Not by complaining when the corp are not sufficiently forthcomming but by implementing their own systems. That is how you have any chance of avoiding the dystopian corporatist future you mention.
__loam 3y ago
Would not be the first time "Open"AI abused words.

blueprint 3y ago

or a manic episode of a caged genius?