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I'm not sure what more you're expecting, there's a thread on HN every few weeks with hundreds of people complaining about Apple's tactics. If what you're really

I'm not sure what more you're expecting, there's a thread on HN every few weeks with hundreds of people complaining about Apple's tactics. If what you're really asking is why Apple doesn't cave to the pressure, it's because they don't care about people ranting on the internet about their tactics. But there's no shortage of outrage around here, and it doesn't just go away. 6 days ago: Apple confirms it's breaking iPhone web apps in the EU on purpose (800 comments) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39388218 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39388218 9 days ago: Developers revolt over Apple's new app store rules (330 comments) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39346527 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39346527 27 days ago: Apple announces changes to iOS, Safari, and the App Store in the European Union (2486 comments) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39132453 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39132453 36 days ago: US developers can offer non-app store purchasing, Apple still collect commission (1300 comments) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38394364 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38394364 62 days ago: Apple allows some iOS apps to track user locations via lists of nearby SSIDs (300 comments) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38720656 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38720656 75 days ago: Apple cuts off Beeper Mini's access (1222 comments) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38574888 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38574888 3 months ago: Developer account removed by Apple (425 comments) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38394364 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38394364

TiredOfLife 3y ago
Those threads are mainly hundreds of commenters defending Apple
- lolinder 3y ago
  At the top level, yes, but there's plenty of opposition within the threads and in lower-rated comments. It's a contentious topic with no clear answers, which is why the Apple threads often turn into huge discussions.
  - addandsubtract 3y ago
    It's also problematic arguing about a tech company on a tech forum where people are either employed at or hold shares in. Even owning an iPhone gives people a vested interest the discussions.
    - lolinder 3y ago
      True, but I'm frequently in these threads as an Android user with no Apple shares I'm aware of (probably some baked into some ETFs somewhere, but not that I pay attention to). My interest in the Apple-is-a-monopoly argument is that it frustrates me that people act like having an iPhone was forced upon them and they should be entitled to having the iPhone the way they want it, when I consciously made the trade-off between customization and great hardware and chose customization.

TiredOfLife 3y ago

Those threads are mainly hundreds of commenters defending Apple

lolinder 3y ago
At the top level, yes, but there's plenty of opposition within the threads and in lower-rated comments. It's a contentious topic with no clear answers, which is why the Apple threads often turn into huge discussions.
- addandsubtract 3y ago
  It's also problematic arguing about a tech company on a tech forum where people are either employed at or hold shares in. Even owning an iPhone gives people a vested interest the discussions.
  - lolinder 3y ago
    True, but I'm frequently in these threads as an Android user with no Apple shares I'm aware of (probably some baked into some ETFs somewhere, but not that I pay attention to). My interest in the Apple-is-a-monopoly argument is that it frustrates me that people act like having an iPhone was forced upon them and they should be entitled to having the iPhone the way they want it, when I consciously made the trade-off between customization and great hardware and chose customization.