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I wonder if 40 years ago people got as bent out of shape about X as they do now about systemd and find one reason or another why it didn't fit the "unix philoso

• linguae 3y ago
  X has long had critics from Unix fans. There’s an entire chapter devoted to X in The UNIX Hater’s Handbook, and the author of that chapter, Don Hopkins, is a major advocate of Sun NeWS. On the Unix side of things, alternatives to X included Sun NeWS and NeXT’s desktop, which are both Display PostScript-based systems. macOS uses Quartz, which is similar to Display Postscript but uses PDF-based objects instead of interpreting PostScript code for rendering graphics. There are also 8 1/2 and its successor rio from Plan 9, which also addressed issues that the Plan 9 developers had with X. Of course, X won out over all these systems; while X has been MIT-licensed since its early days, none of X’s competitors were open source at the time of their release. NeWS, NeXT’s display system, and Quartz remain closed source, and while Plan 9 was released under an OSI-compatible license in 2002, it wasn’t GPL-compatible; this was rectified in 2014 when Plan 9 was GPL’d, and the licensing became even more liberal in 2021 when it became MIT-licensed.
  • pcwalton 3y ago
    Quartz isn't really similar to Display PostScript. Vector drawing is done client-side and isn't proxied out to the window server like NeWS and NeXT did. Sure, you can use Quartz to draw to a PDF, but you can do that in Cairo too.
• throwanem 3y ago
  Chapter 7 of the UNIX-HATERS Handbook is dedicated to the subject: https://web.mit.edu/~simsong/www/ugh.pdf https://web.mit.edu/~simsong/www/ugh.pdf