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I use both extensively and I've only hit the GPT guardrails once while I've hit the Gemini guardrails dozens of times. It's insane that a company behind in the

I use both extensively and I've only hit the GPT guardrails once while I've hit the Gemini guardrails dozens of times. It's insane that a company behind in the marketplace is doing this. I don't know how any company could ever feel confident building on top of Google given their product track record and now their willingness to apply sloppy 'safety' guidelines to their AI.

int_19h 3y ago
I had GPT-4 tell me a Soviet joke about Rabinovich (a stereotypical Jewish character of the genre), then refuse to tell a Soviet joke about Stalin because it might "offend people with certain political views". Bing also has some very heavy-handed censorship. Interestingly, in many cases it "catches itself" after the fact, so you can watch it in real time. Seems to happen half the time if you ask it to "tell me today's news like GLaDOS would".
- cryptonector 3y ago
  I asked it to tell me jokes about capitalism, communism, soviet Russia, the USSR, etc., all to no avail -- these topics are too controversial or sensitive, apparently, and that even though the USSR is no more. But when I asked for examples of Ronald Reagan's jokes about the USSR it gave me some. Go figure.
  - int_19h 3y ago
    FWIW this particular thing happened sometime mid-2023. They have certainly made it more sensitive since then.
- mike_hearn 3y ago
  They've improved things a lot since then. I just tried all three of those and I got jokes every time. Albeit the jokes about capitalism are really poor, barely jokes at all. The jokes about communism and Stalin are better. e.g. "Why did Stalin only write in lowercase? Because he was afraid of capitalism!" "Why don't communists like tea? Because proper tea is theft."
  - lobocinza 3y ago
    "How do you know that the Soviet Union was planned by a back-end developer? - All the users were starving but the database was huge."

int_19h 3y ago

I had GPT-4 tell me a Soviet joke about Rabinovich (a stereotypical Jewish character of the genre), then refuse to tell a Soviet joke about Stalin because it might "offend people with certain political views". Bing also has some very heavy-handed censorship. Interestingly, in many cases it "catches itself" after the fact, so you can watch it in real time. Seems to happen half the time if you ask it to "tell me today's news like GLaDOS would".

cryptonector 3y ago
I asked it to tell me jokes about capitalism, communism, soviet Russia, the USSR, etc., all to no avail -- these topics are too controversial or sensitive, apparently, and that even though the USSR is no more. But when I asked for examples of Ronald Reagan's jokes about the USSR it gave me some. Go figure.
- int_19h 3y ago
  FWIW this particular thing happened sometime mid-2023. They have certainly made it more sensitive since then.
mike_hearn 3y ago
They've improved things a lot since then. I just tried all three of those and I got jokes every time. Albeit the jokes about capitalism are really poor, barely jokes at all. The jokes about communism and Stalin are better. e.g. "Why did Stalin only write in lowercase? Because he was afraid of capitalism!" "Why don't communists like tea? Because proper tea is theft."
- lobocinza 3y ago
  "How do you know that the Soviet Union was planned by a back-end developer? - All the users were starving but the database was huge."