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> We've managed to emulate humans producing text using statistical methods We should be careful with the descriptions, chargtp at best emulate output of humans

> We've managed to emulate humans producing text using statistical methods We should be careful with the descriptions, chargtp at best emulate output of humans producing test. In no way it emulates the process of humans producing text. Chatgtp X could be the most convincing ai claiming to be alive and sentient but its just very refined 'next word generator'. > If we knew how to formally define whether an informal argument is good or bad (so that we could compare them), that is, if we knew a function which would tell if the argument is good or bad, then we could build an AI that would search for its inverse, i.e. provide good arguments and draw correct conclusions. Sounds like you would solve 'the human problem' with that function ;) but I don't think there are ways to boil down an argument/problem to good/bad in real life. Except for math that has formal ways of doing it withing the confines of the math domain. Our world is made of guesses and good enough solutions. There is no perfect bridge design that is objectively flawless. its bunch of sliders, cost, throughput, safety, maintenance etc.

astrange 3y ago
> Chatgtp X could be the most convincing ai claiming to be alive and sentient but its just very refined 'next word generator'. This is meaningless. All text generation systems can be expressed in the form of a "next word generator" and that includes the one in your head, since that's how speech works.
- me_me_me 3y ago
  We most certainly do not generate words to express our thoughts one word at the time using statistical model of what word should go next.
  - astrange 3y ago
    Yes we do. If you write a speech and read it aloud then your written speech is a "statistical model of what word should go next". Any method of creating language can be expressed in this form. (For text, you might want to go back and edit what you've already written, but that can be handled with a token that says to start over.)

astrange 3y ago

> Chatgtp X could be the most convincing ai claiming to be alive and sentient but its just very refined 'next word generator'. This is meaningless. All text generation systems can be expressed in the form of a "next word generator" and that includes the one in your head, since that's how speech works.

me_me_me 3y ago
We most certainly do not generate words to express our thoughts one word at the time using statistical model of what word should go next.
- astrange 3y ago
  Yes we do. If you write a speech and read it aloud then your written speech is a "statistical model of what word should go next". Any method of creating language can be expressed in this form. (For text, you might want to go back and edit what you've already written, but that can be handled with a token that says to start over.)