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Is there any truth behind this claim that folks who worked on Gemma have left Google? https://x.com/yar_vol/status/1760314018575634842 https://x.com/yar_vol/st

Is there any truth behind this claim that folks who worked on Gemma have left Google? https://x.com/yar_vol/status/1760314018575634842 https://x.com/yar_vol/status/1760314018575634842

CaffeinatedDev 3y ago
Them: here to answer questions Question Them: :O
- lordswork 3y ago
  To be fair, I think they are in London, so I assume they have winded down for the day. Will probably have to wait ~12-18 hours for a response.
elcomet 3y ago
It seems very easy to check no? Look at the names in the paper and check where they are working now
- lordswork 3y ago
  Good idea. I've confirmed all the leadership / tech leads listed on page 12 are still at Google. Can someone with a Twitter account call out the tweet linked above and ask them specifically who they are referring to? Seems there is no evidence of their claim.
  - elcomet 3y ago
    It's also possible Google removed names of people who left. It's not really a research paper, more a marketing piece, so it might be possible (I don't think they would do that with a conf paper)
    - lordswork 3y ago
      We'll see if the person making this claim responds with specific Gemma developers that have left. Otherwise, I think it's safe to assume they are just lying.
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lordswork 3y ago
I confirmed all the folks listed on page 12 are still at Google (listed below). I am guessing the linked tweet is a BS claim. # Product Management Tris Warkentin Ludovic Peran # Program Management Minh Giang # Executive Sponsors Clement Farabet Oriol Vinyals Jeff Dean Koray Kavukcuoglu Demis Hassabis Zoubin Ghahramani Douglas Eck Joelle Barral Fernando Pereira Eli Collins # Leads Armand Joulin Noah Fiedel Evan Senter # Tech Leads Alek Andreev† Kathleen Kenealy†
- trisfromgoogle 3y ago
  Always funny to see your own name as you scroll through HN comments =). You're right, though!
bluefinity 3y ago
To be fair, the tweet says that they don't work on the models at Google anymore, not that they have left Google. Might be true, might not be. It's unsourced speculation.

Is there any truth behind this claim that folks who worked on Gemma have left Google? https://x.com/yar_vol/status/1760314018575634842 https://x.com/yar_vol/status/1760314018575634842

CaffeinatedDev 3y ago

Them: here to answer questions Question Them: :O

lordswork 3y ago
To be fair, I think they are in London, so I assume they have winded down for the day. Will probably have to wait ~12-18 hours for a response.

elcomet 3y ago

It seems very easy to check no? Look at the names in the paper and check where they are working now

lordswork 3y ago
Good idea. I've confirmed all the leadership / tech leads listed on page 12 are still at Google. Can someone with a Twitter account call out the tweet linked above and ask them specifically who they are referring to? Seems there is no evidence of their claim.
- elcomet 3y ago
  It's also possible Google removed names of people who left. It's not really a research paper, more a marketing piece, so it might be possible (I don't think they would do that with a conf paper)
  - lordswork 3y ago
    We'll see if the person making this claim responds with specific Gemma developers that have left. Otherwise, I think it's safe to assume they are just lying.

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lordswork 3y ago

I confirmed all the folks listed on page 12 are still at Google (listed below). I am guessing the linked tweet is a BS claim. # Product Management Tris Warkentin Ludovic Peran # Program Management Minh Giang # Executive Sponsors Clement Farabet Oriol Vinyals Jeff Dean Koray Kavukcuoglu Demis Hassabis Zoubin Ghahramani Douglas Eck Joelle Barral Fernando Pereira Eli Collins # Leads Armand Joulin Noah Fiedel Evan Senter # Tech Leads Alek Andreev† Kathleen Kenealy†

trisfromgoogle 3y ago
Always funny to see your own name as you scroll through HN comments =). You're right, though!

bluefinity 3y ago

To be fair, the tweet says that they don't work on the models at Google anymore, not that they have left Google. Might be true, might not be. It's unsourced speculation.