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>Services are production as well. In what fantasy universe? >Or are you saying that any dollars made selling software you wrote is useless? I never said anyt

>Services are production as well. In what fantasy universe? >Or are you saying that any dollars made selling software you wrote is useless? I never said anything about software. You're building your own strawmen at this point.

alephnerd 3y ago
> In what fantasy universe? By definition - https://data.oecd.org/gdp/gross-domestic-product-gdp.htm#:~:text=Gross%20domestic%20product%20(GDP)%20is,and%20services%20(less%20imports) https://data.oecd.org/gdp/gross-domestic-product-gdp.htm#:~:.... > I never said anything about software Software, Banking, Foreign shell companies holding all global profits, etc all fall under SERVICES.
- FirmwareBurner 3y ago
  You're answering to claims I haven't made and not the questions I asked.
  - alephnerd 3y ago
    I'm pointing out that the definition you are using is fundamentally flawed, which completely undermines your point.
    - FirmwareBurner 3y ago
      You're pointing out that tax heavens produce products which is flawed. They don't produce anything, they're just middlemen and their balooned GDP reflects that.
subtra3t 3y ago
Generally, goods and services are considered to be products. And their analogy to software wasn't in bad faith, software is a service (hence the term SaaS used for subscription based software, even though non subscription based software is also a service imo) and not a good.
- FirmwareBurner 3y ago
  >Generally, goods and services are considered to be products. False. Products are products, services are services. Product si a Macbook or video game I just bough which I can return, but I can't return the cleaning service the handyman just offered on site.
  - subtra3t 3y ago
    Completely incorrect. I shall quote the Wikipedia page for product [1]: "A service is also regarded as a type of product." [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Product_(business) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Product_(business)

alephnerd 3y ago

> In what fantasy universe? By definition - https://data.oecd.org/gdp/gross-domestic-product-gdp.htm#:~:text=Gross%20domestic%20product%20(GDP)%20is,and%20services%20(less%20imports) https://data.oecd.org/gdp/gross-domestic-product-gdp.htm#:~:.... > I never said anything about software Software, Banking, Foreign shell companies holding all global profits, etc all fall under SERVICES.

FirmwareBurner 3y ago
You're answering to claims I haven't made and not the questions I asked.
- alephnerd 3y ago
  I'm pointing out that the definition you are using is fundamentally flawed, which completely undermines your point.
  - FirmwareBurner 3y ago
    You're pointing out that tax heavens produce products which is flawed. They don't produce anything, they're just middlemen and their balooned GDP reflects that.

subtra3t 3y ago

Generally, goods and services are considered to be products. And their analogy to software wasn't in bad faith, software is a service (hence the term SaaS used for subscription based software, even though non subscription based software is also a service imo) and not a good.

FirmwareBurner 3y ago
>Generally, goods and services are considered to be products. False. Products are products, services are services. Product si a Macbook or video game I just bough which I can return, but I can't return the cleaning service the handyman just offered on site.
- subtra3t 3y ago
  Completely incorrect. I shall quote the Wikipedia page for product [1]: "A service is also regarded as a type of product." [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Product_(business) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Product_(business)