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Apple Sports

33 points by dm 3y ago

hbcondo714 3y ago
Apple Sports keeps fans up to date on the following leagues currently in season: MLS NBA NCAA basketball (men’s and women’s) NHL Bundesliga LaLiga Liga MX Ligue 1 Premier League Serie A I hope they expand their coverage for more sports like Baseball (MLB) and Tennis (WTA, ATP)
- quitit 3y ago
  From the link: Additional leagues will become available on Apple Sports over time, including MLB, NFL, NCAAF, NWSL, and WNBA for their upcoming seasons. No word on tennis yet.
superultra 3y ago
Does anyone else find the prominence of sports betting in this app…odd? I know sports betting has become a bigger and bigger part of watching sports. But as an activity that can become harmful to certain people, I find it very un-Apple like to have prioritized this information in what is otherwise a fairly mediocre app when compared to, say, ESPN.
- tiltowait 3y ago
  It's definitely a surprise to see, coming from Apple. However, if we consider the amount of money they make on gacha games, which are essentially slot machines (that award you worthless items) (and are often targeted at children), it's unfortunately less of a surprise.
  - realusername 3y ago
    Both the appstore and the playstore are indeed making most of their money on casino type games but usually they try for obvious PR & legal reasons to avoid this subject. Anything mentioning the store will show plenty of productivity apps or something similarly positive. I'm also very surprised by this move.
- hombre_fatal 3y ago
  Betting odds are useful even if you don't bet because they show you the outcome prediction. It would be weird if clicking it led you to a betting website given Apple's stance on gambling, but just seeing the odds isn't weird.
  - cjrp 3y ago
    Google frames this as “win probability” which feels more like statistics rather than gambling.
- blashyrk 3y ago
  Why? Do you consider Apple to generally be some sort of force of good? I find Apple to be an incredibly cynical company. They are cynical towards their users (donglebook back when USB-c was hardly adopted, the whole "you're holding it wrong" saga etc etc). They are even more cynical towards the developers on their platform, no need to waste words on that after the recent malicious compliance of EU laws etc
  - scarface_74 3y ago
    You’re right about adopting USB C too early. They should have also stuck with SCSI and ADB with the original iMac. But this is a first, someone complaining that Apple used an industry standard too early.
    - blashyrk 3y ago
      Except, of course, it's not about using it too early, it's about getting rid of what EVERYONE at that point used (USB-A) too early. So they could shave off a few mm of the laptop body as if it were a designer bag and not a device with a "pro" designation. Same as with the 3.5mm jack on the iPhone. They, of course, would then sell adapters at a premium because why not.
      - scarface_74 3y ago
        Or you know, you could buy the same dongles from third parties. That’s the beauty of standards. Also by abandoning old ports it incentivizes other companies to produce compatible hardware - just like the iMac did for USB in 1997. As far as phones, now most premium phones come without a headphone jack. But most people aren’t walking around with cords hanging from their phones anyway - they use Bluetooth headsets
      - bzzzt 3y ago
        If they didn't make the MacBook USB-C only manufacturers would still be churning out USB-A devices like there's no tomorrow. At least, due to economies of scale there are more devices and cheap adapters to use and even the original Thunderbolt promise of 'one wire' display, power and data is becoming a lot more common. But of course, it's all about the few bucks Apple earns on a sub $10 adapter.
- gwill 3y ago
  I didn't find it prominent and had to read pretty far down to find out that it's only betting odds being displayed. I find betting odds useful to know expectations going into a game. You can turn the betting odds off as well.
  - superultra 3y ago
    That’s interesting. I don’t see anywhere to turn off the odds, and for me - this is for NHL - the odds are the top widget on all the games.
    - jdechko 3y ago
      Settings -> Sports -> Hide betting odds
    - gwill 3y ago
      I misunderstood you, sorry. I thought you meant that the ad copy was prominent in mentioning betting odds. I haven't ran the app, so I can't speak to that.
- blueelephanttea 3y ago
  > Does anyone else find the prominence of sports betting in this app…odd? Not really. The basic betting line indicating which team is favored has been apart of box scores long before betting was widespread or accessible in the US. I would find it pretty shocking if Apple started displaying individual player betting lines, parlays, etc. The stuff that has propagated into broadcasts with the growth of sports betting. But which team is favored seems pretty basic information that is interesting even if I don't care about betting.
- Crontab 3y ago
  I am not a fan of betting but I support being able to do it. I do think it would be nice if Apple could add an option to hide all gambling-related things for those who struggle with an addiction to it.
  - FireBeyond 3y ago
    Not even that, Apple has a moral objection to other things, but gambling is okay? (I don't think they should be arbiting anything, but still...)
niteshade 3y ago
Unclear why this gets its own app instead of being a tab in the News app
baxuz 3y ago
Oh boy, gambling as an OS feature.
- Spivak 3y ago
  That's called trying to connect to non-Apple bluetooth devices.
subpixel 3y ago
This seems designed in exact opposition to my needs. I need a service that curates highlights of the sports and teams and players I care about, presented in a way that shares no spoilers, so I can catch up when I can. As is usual this gap in copyrighted content is filled by unsanctioned channels.

33 points by dm 3y ago

Apple Sports keeps fans up to date on the following leagues currently in season: MLS NBA NCAA basketball (men’s and women’s) NHL Bundesliga LaLiga Liga MX Ligue 1 Premier League Serie A I hope they expand their coverage for more sports like Baseball (MLB) and Tennis (WTA, ATP)

quitit 3y ago
From the link: Additional leagues will become available on Apple Sports over time, including MLB, NFL, NCAAF, NWSL, and WNBA for their upcoming seasons. No word on tennis yet.

superultra 3y ago

Does anyone else find the prominence of sports betting in this app…odd? I know sports betting has become a bigger and bigger part of watching sports. But as an activity that can become harmful to certain people, I find it very un-Apple like to have prioritized this information in what is otherwise a fairly mediocre app when compared to, say, ESPN.

tiltowait 3y ago
It's definitely a surprise to see, coming from Apple. However, if we consider the amount of money they make on gacha games, which are essentially slot machines (that award you worthless items) (and are often targeted at children), it's unfortunately less of a surprise.
- realusername 3y ago
  Both the appstore and the playstore are indeed making most of their money on casino type games but usually they try for obvious PR & legal reasons to avoid this subject. Anything mentioning the store will show plenty of productivity apps or something similarly positive. I'm also very surprised by this move.
hombre_fatal 3y ago
Betting odds are useful even if you don't bet because they show you the outcome prediction. It would be weird if clicking it led you to a betting website given Apple's stance on gambling, but just seeing the odds isn't weird.
- cjrp 3y ago
  Google frames this as “win probability” which feels more like statistics rather than gambling.
blashyrk 3y ago
Why? Do you consider Apple to generally be some sort of force of good? I find Apple to be an incredibly cynical company. They are cynical towards their users (donglebook back when USB-c was hardly adopted, the whole "you're holding it wrong" saga etc etc). They are even more cynical towards the developers on their platform, no need to waste words on that after the recent malicious compliance of EU laws etc
- scarface_74 3y ago
  You’re right about adopting USB C too early. They should have also stuck with SCSI and ADB with the original iMac. But this is a first, someone complaining that Apple used an industry standard too early.
  - blashyrk 3y ago
    Except, of course, it's not about using it too early, it's about getting rid of what EVERYONE at that point used (USB-A) too early. So they could shave off a few mm of the laptop body as if it were a designer bag and not a device with a "pro" designation. Same as with the 3.5mm jack on the iPhone. They, of course, would then sell adapters at a premium because why not.
    - scarface_74 3y ago
      Or you know, you could buy the same dongles from third parties. That’s the beauty of standards. Also by abandoning old ports it incentivizes other companies to produce compatible hardware - just like the iMac did for USB in 1997. As far as phones, now most premium phones come without a headphone jack. But most people aren’t walking around with cords hanging from their phones anyway - they use Bluetooth headsets
    - bzzzt 3y ago
      If they didn't make the MacBook USB-C only manufacturers would still be churning out USB-A devices like there's no tomorrow. At least, due to economies of scale there are more devices and cheap adapters to use and even the original Thunderbolt promise of 'one wire' display, power and data is becoming a lot more common. But of course, it's all about the few bucks Apple earns on a sub $10 adapter.
gwill 3y ago
I didn't find it prominent and had to read pretty far down to find out that it's only betting odds being displayed. I find betting odds useful to know expectations going into a game. You can turn the betting odds off as well.
- superultra 3y ago
  That’s interesting. I don’t see anywhere to turn off the odds, and for me - this is for NHL - the odds are the top widget on all the games.
  - jdechko 3y ago
    Settings -> Sports -> Hide betting odds
  - gwill 3y ago
    I misunderstood you, sorry. I thought you meant that the ad copy was prominent in mentioning betting odds. I haven't ran the app, so I can't speak to that.
blueelephanttea 3y ago
> Does anyone else find the prominence of sports betting in this app…odd? Not really. The basic betting line indicating which team is favored has been apart of box scores long before betting was widespread or accessible in the US. I would find it pretty shocking if Apple started displaying individual player betting lines, parlays, etc. The stuff that has propagated into broadcasts with the growth of sports betting. But which team is favored seems pretty basic information that is interesting even if I don't care about betting.
Crontab 3y ago
I am not a fan of betting but I support being able to do it. I do think it would be nice if Apple could add an option to hide all gambling-related things for those who struggle with an addiction to it.
- FireBeyond 3y ago
  Not even that, Apple has a moral objection to other things, but gambling is okay? (I don't think they should be arbiting anything, but still...)

niteshade 3y ago

Unclear why this gets its own app instead of being a tab in the News app

baxuz 3y ago

Oh boy, gambling as an OS feature.

Spivak 3y ago
That's called trying to connect to non-Apple bluetooth devices.

subpixel 3y ago

This seems designed in exact opposition to my needs. I need a service that curates highlights of the sports and teams and players I care about, presented in a way that shares no spoilers, so I can catch up when I can. As is usual this gap in copyrighted content is filled by unsanctioned channels.