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Do you know why the USA is the richest country in the world while being full of homeless, or has the strongest army in the world while having the shittiest heal
by javcasas 3y ago
Do you know why the USA is the richest country in the world while being full of homeless, or has the strongest army in the world while having the shittiest healthcare of all developed countries?
Because liberalism, I/E shrink the state so that ~the corporations can rule~ the invisible hand of the market can fix everything.
Even Adam Smith recognised that you need a state to limit the power of the big actors in the invisible hand of the market.
- miunau 3y agoIt seems like you are confusing two different terms, liberalism and libertarianism.
- javcasas 3y agoCan you explain the difference? Googling it is quite hard, as it mostly throws me biased views.
- atombender 3y agoIn the U.S.: "Liberalism": Broadly, what other countries call social liberalism, i.e. liberty, individual rights, equality, all rooted in Locke's notion of the social contract. "Libertarianism": An American revival of what's formally called classical liberalism. Broadly: Small government, strong individual rights, free market capitalism, etc.
- Ancapistani 3y agoNo, they are using the term “liberalism” in its historic meaning, not the current, US meaning.
- swarnie 3y ago> Do you know why the USA is the richest country in the world while being full of homeless, or has the strongest army in the world while having the shittiest healthcare of all developed countries? Yes, its in the post you're replying too. The USA run an oligarchy system where by the vast majority of money, power and influenced and controlled by an impossibly small interconnected group. But its ok because every four years the peasants get to chooses which billionaire is the least worse and cast their vote. What does anything in my post have to do with liberalism?
- javcasas 3y agoWell, oligarchy is the eventual result of liberalism. Even though we may have started equal, some people, through luck or questionable methods, have attained a position of power, possibly by being owners of a company that has a monopolistic status. And now, via regulatory capture and targeted actions against competitors, looks to subvert the "free" hand of the market. Why can't you get decent internet in the States? Because on each location there are two or maybe three companies that collude to keep prices high. And when you try to start your own ISP, suddenly these companies offer crazy good/under cost prices so that your new ISP is unable to survive, and then jack up the prices again. Of course, at any point, as a consumer, you are absolutely free to enter into a contract with whatever ISP you want. If only there were a few more... Now tell me how do you fix that without bigger state imposing specific regulations.
- swarnie 3y agoOk just to be clear, your the only one here talking about Liberalism. Liberalism and libertarianism are two very different things.
- javcasas 3y agoSure, can you explain the differences? Google is not being helpful here, it seems both words have quite a bit of propaganda behind them.
- throwaway86375 3y agoGP seems to be using the "classical liberalism" definition of liberalism, which largerly overlaps with what's generally considered libertarianism.
- throwaway86375 3y agoThe American healthcare system is not libertarian. The US has the highest total health spending per capita in the world, more then France and the UK combined. [1] [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_total_health_expenditure_per_capita#Organization_for_Economic_Co-operation_and_Development https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_total_hea...