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Man, this horse has been dead for decades. Stop flogging it. Male and female brains differ, subtly but robustly and testably, along a variety of axes. The noti

by dTal 3y ago

Man, this horse has been dead for decades. Stop flogging it. Male and female brains differ, subtly but robustly and testably, along a variety of axes. The notion that these differences might be down to socialization was never motivated by science, but rather by the fear that such differences justified sexism. This is 60s era, second wave feminism politics and it's been roundly debunked again and again and again (look up David Reimer for a particularly gruesome case study). It's 2024 - can we please accept as a society that people can be different without being superior or inferior, and move on? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Reimer https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Reimer

rayiner 3y ago
> It's 2024 - can we please accept as a society that people can be different without being superior or inferior The existence of difference necessarily means the possibility of superiority or inferiority in certain contexts. The task of social philosophy is accepting that men and women can be morally equal while being different and, on average, better at some things and worse at other things. For example, our moral philosophy will probably have to come to terms with the overrepresentation of men among both geniuses and criminals. The corollary to that is why modern “diversity” ideology is a step backward. Positing that the races are different, but those differences are all positive ones, is an explosively dangerous idea. Because if the former is true—and I’m not saying it is, and I sincerely hope it’s not—the latter is just wishful thinking. Because if meaningful differences exist, those differences are probably going to be pro-adaptive in some cases and maladaptive in others.
brrrrrm 3y ago
whoa, lots of negative reactions to a pretty mundane comment I made about the science of it all. It's overwhelmingly likely, from other studies, that brains differ, sure. But, the AI derived signal mentioned in this study might not be picking up on that? In fact, it's hard to conclude as such from the experiment run simply because it was run on adults. Run it on infants to control for that confounding factor.
- LargeTomato 3y ago
  It kind of seems like you are being unscientific and politically motivated.
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by dTal 3y ago

rayiner 3y ago

> It's 2024 - can we please accept as a society that people can be different without being superior or inferior The existence of difference necessarily means the possibility of superiority or inferiority in certain contexts. The task of social philosophy is accepting that men and women can be morally equal while being different and, on average, better at some things and worse at other things. For example, our moral philosophy will probably have to come to terms with the overrepresentation of men among both geniuses and criminals. The corollary to that is why modern “diversity” ideology is a step backward. Positing that the races are different, but those differences are all positive ones, is an explosively dangerous idea. Because if the former is true—and I’m not saying it is, and I sincerely hope it’s not—the latter is just wishful thinking. Because if meaningful differences exist, those differences are probably going to be pro-adaptive in some cases and maladaptive in others.

brrrrrm 3y ago

whoa, lots of negative reactions to a pretty mundane comment I made about the science of it all. It's overwhelmingly likely, from other studies, that brains differ, sure. But, the AI derived signal mentioned in this study might not be picking up on that? In fact, it's hard to conclude as such from the experiment run simply because it was run on adults. Run it on infants to control for that confounding factor.

LargeTomato 3y ago
It kind of seems like you are being unscientific and politically motivated.
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