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To me it's surprising they didn't keep them for backup / resiliency. There's a lot of rats and mice in London, and they can and do chew through fibre.

mhh__ 3y ago
We don't do backup or resiliency anymore in search of "value for money"
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tetris11 3y ago
Cheaper to replace fiber during the day when most of the customers are out, than to hire a rare specialized technician to maintain it maybe
poooogles 3y ago
From memory at the time there was corrosion on the fixings and it would've been exceedingly expensive to repair/replace.
rsynnott 3y ago
Maintaining redundant fibre links (which exist) would likely be cheaper than maintaining a decades-old microwave system (I would wonder if they even have the appropriate spectrum licenses anymore, anyway).
rjmunro 3y ago
I think it's just that the bandwidth of the microwaves is not much by today's standards. It was capable of 150,000 simultaneous telephone calls, which is something like 10Gbs. It may be that modern numbers were higher, but possibly not much as you have to share the microwave spectrum with other uses. In a fibre you get the whole optical spectrum to yourself, so you can achieve much higher speeds. You can also run many fibres in the same ducting and increase bandwidth that way. For backup / resiliency you just run more fibres via different routes.
mickeyp 3y ago
Fitzrovia is laced with fibre; the entire area is/was host to a large number of broadcast service providers, media companies, telcos, etc. Running out of fibre is not likely in that part of London.
- twic 3y ago
  I wonder how many of them were originally set up there because of proximity to the tower and its communications links. Other than that, isn't Fitzrovia basically UCL and early 20th century novelists? Although I suppose there is Broadcasting House over on the other side.
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mhh__ 3y ago

We don't do backup or resiliency anymore in search of "value for money"

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tetris11 3y ago

Cheaper to replace fiber during the day when most of the customers are out, than to hire a rare specialized technician to maintain it maybe

poooogles 3y ago

From memory at the time there was corrosion on the fixings and it would've been exceedingly expensive to repair/replace.

rsynnott 3y ago

Maintaining redundant fibre links (which exist) would likely be cheaper than maintaining a decades-old microwave system (I would wonder if they even have the appropriate spectrum licenses anymore, anyway).

rjmunro 3y ago

I think it's just that the bandwidth of the microwaves is not much by today's standards. It was capable of 150,000 simultaneous telephone calls, which is something like 10Gbs. It may be that modern numbers were higher, but possibly not much as you have to share the microwave spectrum with other uses. In a fibre you get the whole optical spectrum to yourself, so you can achieve much higher speeds. You can also run many fibres in the same ducting and increase bandwidth that way. For backup / resiliency you just run more fibres via different routes.

mickeyp 3y ago

Fitzrovia is laced with fibre; the entire area is/was host to a large number of broadcast service providers, media companies, telcos, etc. Running out of fibre is not likely in that part of London.

twic 3y ago
I wonder how many of them were originally set up there because of proximity to the tower and its communications links. Other than that, isn't Fitzrovia basically UCL and early 20th century novelists? Although I suppose there is Broadcasting House over on the other side.

AniseAbyss 3y ago

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