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Interesting, I didn't know about this effect. However the analysis seems to implicitly assume that a person's IQ remains constant as they move up the educationa

Interesting, I didn't know about this effect. However the analysis seems to implicitly assume that a person's IQ remains constant as they move up the educational ladder. This does not seem right, assuming that education system works as it should (ie, exposing students to harder and harder issues over time), and also because people should still naturally develop intellectually after high school.

bryanrasmussen 3y ago
Well people want IQ to be a test of intelligence, which it isn't particularly but supposing it were, if it increased with education then people who were well-educated would have a higher IQ than those who were not. Wealthy parents would be able to afford to give their children a higher IQ. All sorts of side effects would come into play (or as they are already in play be increased) because it would be obvious that the people at the top of the socioeconomic ladder are there just because they are smarter than everybody else and the serfs should stop their whining. What is actually wanted are 1. a potential score that remains pretty much even as you start to realize the potential, with decrease with age as it is supposed that potential decreases. This is actually pretty much the way IQ works. It would also be nice if potential could identify areas in which you had more potential. 2. an educational score across various areas. 3. an ability to apply 1 and 2 score. functions that could calculate what education you should have further, cost / benefit analysis etc. Has your ability to apply what you have learned increased by the amount expected given your potential, would, for example, be an interesting thing to track.
janandonly 3y ago
I've always understood IQ to be similar to the "horse power" of your brain. Filling the brain with more facts, and learning more quick routes and tricks, will, surely, make you arrive at a conclusion faster, but the raw Horse Power of your brain/internal engine is not going to get any higher.

bryanrasmussen 3y ago

Well people want IQ to be a test of intelligence, which it isn't particularly but supposing it were, if it increased with education then people who were well-educated would have a higher IQ than those who were not. Wealthy parents would be able to afford to give their children a higher IQ. All sorts of side effects would come into play (or as they are already in play be increased) because it would be obvious that the people at the top of the socioeconomic ladder are there just because they are smarter than everybody else and the serfs should stop their whining. What is actually wanted are 1. a potential score that remains pretty much even as you start to realize the potential, with decrease with age as it is supposed that potential decreases. This is actually pretty much the way IQ works. It would also be nice if potential could identify areas in which you had more potential. 2. an educational score across various areas. 3. an ability to apply 1 and 2 score. functions that could calculate what education you should have further, cost / benefit analysis etc. Has your ability to apply what you have learned increased by the amount expected given your potential, would, for example, be an interesting thing to track.

janandonly 3y ago

I've always understood IQ to be similar to the "horse power" of your brain. Filling the brain with more facts, and learning more quick routes and tricks, will, surely, make you arrive at a conclusion faster, but the raw Horse Power of your brain/internal engine is not going to get any higher.