I'm not sure if you meant this, but I wonder too.. from the perspective of: - energy loss in resource extraction and refinement (steel, aluminum, plastic, etc,

I'm not sure if you meant this, but I wonder too.. from the perspective of: - energy loss in resource extraction and refinement (steel, aluminum, plastic, etc, etc) - manufacturing energy use - shipping energy use - disposal energy costs of old device (including recycling costs) - all the pollution in the above, versus pollution from local energy sources It's entirely possible that an energy efficient fridge that lasts 2 years, could cost more energy than a fridge from the 60s that keeps on running. So outside of "cash cost" even the energy cost may be higher!