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If there exists a company that makes appliances that are very expensive and that last a long time, a company with a real reputation for quality, then it is extr

If there exists a company that makes appliances that are very expensive and that last a long time, a company with a real reputation for quality, then it is extremely profitable for that company to be purchased by a hedge fund that cuts quality by 90%, raises prices by 10%, and just rides that train into the ground over the next 20 years.

distances 3y ago
Miele has that reputation. According to Wikipedia, it "has always been a family-owned and family-run company", which would explain why it hasn't suffered that fate.
- reaperman 3y ago
  I love my Miele vacuum but they're not like the old-school vacuum companies. They too succumbed to modern business practices. They discontinued all their upright models a couple years ago - just 1 year after I bought it. I needed a replacement belt for the carpet brush, but they: - No longer mannufactured that incredibly commonly replaced part -- probably the most frequently replaced part on an upright vacuum. - No longer sold any leftover stock of that part - Did not have a recommendation for a 3rd-party replacement - Did not have any access to any service manuals for the device I bought 1 year earlier to tell me what dimensions the original belt was. Additionally, quite a few years ago Miele changed their canister vacuum bags to force customers to replace them more frequently, most recently in 2017[0] but also tried some shenanigans in 2009[1]. Furthermore, the air prefilter quality went from "amazing" to "horrible" during COVID. I still recommend Miele vacuums because everything else is much much worse. But I can no longer give them an unconditional endorsement, and I worry for their future too. SEBO may be another brand to consider[2] if you find yourself looking at Miele's. 0: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsAgQvNkvS8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsAgQvNkvS8 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=deC6hTFMrKI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=deC6hTFMrKI 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjV3lhD7y1w https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjV3lhD7y1w
  - nerdbert 3y ago
    > a few years ago Miele changed their canister vacuum bags to force customers to replace them more frequently Thankfully they also sell bagless vacuums, our Miele bagless is working pretty well so far (though after a couple years it's definitely started to get louder, despite me doing all the recommended maintenance).

distances 3y ago

Miele has that reputation. According to Wikipedia, it "has always been a family-owned and family-run company", which would explain why it hasn't suffered that fate.

reaperman 3y ago
I love my Miele vacuum but they're not like the old-school vacuum companies. They too succumbed to modern business practices. They discontinued all their upright models a couple years ago - just 1 year after I bought it. I needed a replacement belt for the carpet brush, but they: - No longer mannufactured that incredibly commonly replaced part -- probably the most frequently replaced part on an upright vacuum. - No longer sold any leftover stock of that part - Did not have a recommendation for a 3rd-party replacement - Did not have any access to any service manuals for the device I bought 1 year earlier to tell me what dimensions the original belt was. Additionally, quite a few years ago Miele changed their canister vacuum bags to force customers to replace them more frequently, most recently in 2017[0] but also tried some shenanigans in 2009[1]. Furthermore, the air prefilter quality went from "amazing" to "horrible" during COVID. I still recommend Miele vacuums because everything else is much much worse. But I can no longer give them an unconditional endorsement, and I worry for their future too. SEBO may be another brand to consider[2] if you find yourself looking at Miele's. 0: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsAgQvNkvS8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsAgQvNkvS8 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=deC6hTFMrKI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=deC6hTFMrKI 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjV3lhD7y1w https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjV3lhD7y1w
- nerdbert 3y ago
  > a few years ago Miele changed their canister vacuum bags to force customers to replace them more frequently Thankfully they also sell bagless vacuums, our Miele bagless is working pretty well so far (though after a couple years it's definitely started to get louder, despite me doing all the recommended maintenance).