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Absolutely, it always mystifies me that the cost-effectiveness of renewables and EVs doesn't appeal even to some sense of self-interest in people who dismiss cl

Absolutely, it always mystifies me that the cost-effectiveness of renewables and EVs doesn't appeal even to some sense of self-interest in people who dismiss climate change. I often bring up the fact that, with the mechanical efficiency of combustion engines being ~25% (the rest being waste heat), for every 4 gallons of gas you buy, you're basically throwing away 3. Even from just an aesthetic point of view you'd think that'd bother people but it doesn't seem to. Entrenched views from decades of marketing by the fossil industry, I guess.

acdha 3y ago
> Entrenched views from decades of marketing by the fossil industry, I guess. Not just regular marketing but specifically cultivating particular political parties and making it a tribal loyalty test. I think of my grandfather as an example: he switched to CFLs and LED bulbs earlier in the century because as a child of the Depression he’s totally on board with saving money, but last summer he made some anti-EV comments because as a long-time Republican voter people he trusted had claimed that they were a left-wing conspiracy (this is moot for him since he can’t drive any more). I doubt they ever mentioned oil directly but the money was there behind the scenes getting to that point.