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Here's the thing: You're right. And also you're not. Sometimes, often, feedback is about timing. The time to talk about how better to architect a thing is when

by Swizec 3y ago

Here's the thing: You're right. And also you're not. Sometimes, often, feedback is about timing. The time to talk about how better to architect a thing is when it's being architected, not 2 months later. Instead of "This is crap" try "Hey I know this works for now, but there's room for improvement here. Next time we're talking about a system like this can I help with design? I have a few ideas what we might improve". Volunteering to do the work of implementing your improvements goes a long way to making people more receptive to feedback. Otherwise you're just giving people homework and they almost certainly already have enough of that. edit to add: Yes, creating change is work and it is exhausting. That's why organizations value people who can pull it off.

loup-vaillant 3y ago
I wish I could have that good timing, but I'm rarely hired early enough.
- Swizec 3y ago
  Hey 3 years from now the mistakes you’re making today will look like “Wow I wish I was there, that loup-vaillant guy sucked” to some new hotshot :) That is to say: You can start now. There’s always plenty of new mistakes to make.
  - loup-vaillant 3y ago
    It's not that I wish I was there to prevent past mistakes. I just wish I could be allowed to fix the mistakes I see with the power of hindsight. But there's worse: most of the time they already know. The various issues I balk at were often bothering them for years, and yet fixing it was never the priority. Week after month, there always was something more pressing, generally about some deadline. Such issues often have gone long enough that the cost of keeping the current cruft have long exceeded the cost of replacing it. But this cost is gradual, so the fix keeps getting pushed further and further into the end of times. Perhaps my biggest mistake is not seeing that such organisations are beyond helping. I keep getting fooled by promises of doing things right going forward, when I should instead extrapolate the past. Either they're already work in ways that I can approve, or at least live with, or I should seek something else on the spot.

by Swizec 3y ago

loup-vaillant 3y ago

I wish I could have that good timing, but I'm rarely hired early enough.

Swizec 3y ago
Hey 3 years from now the mistakes you’re making today will look like “Wow I wish I was there, that loup-vaillant guy sucked” to some new hotshot :) That is to say: You can start now. There’s always plenty of new mistakes to make.
- loup-vaillant 3y ago
  It's not that I wish I was there to prevent past mistakes. I just wish I could be allowed to fix the mistakes I see with the power of hindsight. But there's worse: most of the time they already know. The various issues I balk at were often bothering them for years, and yet fixing it was never the priority. Week after month, there always was something more pressing, generally about some deadline. Such issues often have gone long enough that the cost of keeping the current cruft have long exceeded the cost of replacing it. But this cost is gradual, so the fix keeps getting pushed further and further into the end of times. Perhaps my biggest mistake is not seeing that such organisations are beyond helping. I keep getting fooled by promises of doing things right going forward, when I should instead extrapolate the past. Either they're already work in ways that I can approve, or at least live with, or I should seek something else on the spot.